King Cat, fourth chapter of Book Four in the Inheritance Cycle has been released in the paperback edition of the third book, Brisingr. Fortunately, this exclusive sneak peek is available for your reading pleasure without having to go out and purchase the book. The excerpt reveals many a tantalizing clue that will no doubt fuel book four theories, speculation, and discussion. Enjoy!
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King Cat
“Where have you been?” demanded Garrow, the lines on his face harsh in the candlelight. “The horses need bringing in.”
Eragon did his best to ignore his waking dreams as he stood on the dais in the main hall of the keep, directly to the right of Lord Bradburn’s throne. He placed his left hand on the pommel of Brisingr, which was sheathed, and adopted a more casual pose, hoping no one would notice his exhaustion.
On the other side of the throne stood Jörmundur, holding his helmet in the crook of his left arm. The hair at his temples was streaked with gray; the rest was brown, and all of it was pulled back into a long braid. His lean face bore the studiously blank expression of a person who had extensive experience waiting on others. Eragon noticed a thin line of red running along the underside of Jörmundur’s right bracer, from some wound or another, but Jörmundur showed no sign of pain.
Between the two of them sat Nasuada, resplendent in a dress of green and yellow, which she had donned just moments before, exchanging the bright raiment of war for garb more suited to the practice of statecraft. She too had been marked during the fighting, as was evidenced by the white linen bandage wrapped around her left hand.
In a low voice, so that only Eragon and Jörmundur could hear, Nasuada said, “If we can but gain their support…”
“What will they want in return, though?” asked Jörmundur. “Our coffers are near empty, and our future uncertain.”
Her lips barely moving, she said, “Perhaps they wish nothing more of us than a chance to strike back at Galbatorix.” She paused. “But if not, we shall have to find other means of persuading them besides gold to join our ranks.”
“You could offer them barrels of cream,” said Eragon, which elicited a chortle from Jörmundur and a soft laugh from Nasuada.
Their murmured conversation came to an end as three trumpets sounded outside the main hall. Then a flaxen-haired page dressed in a tunic stitched with the Varden’s standard—a white dragon holding a rose above a sword pointing downward on a purple field—marched through the open doorway at the far end of the hall, struck the floor with the ceremonial staff he carried, and, with a thin warbling voice announced, “His Most Exalted Royal Highness, Grimrr Halfpaw, King of the Werecats, Lord of the Lonely Places, Ruler of the Night Reaches, and He Who Walks Alone.”
A strange title that: He Who Walks Alone, Eragon observed to Saphira.
But well deserved, I would guess, she replied, and he could sense her amusement, even though he could not see her where she lay coiled in the keep of the castle.
The page stepped aside, and through the doorway strode Grimrr Halfpaw in the shape of a human, trailed by four other werecats, who padded close behind him on large shaggy paws. The four resembled Solembum, the one other werecat Eragon had seen in the guise of an animal: heavy-shouldered and long-limbed, with short, dark ruffs upon their necks and withers, tasseled ears, and black-tipped tails, which they waved gracefully from side to side.
Grimrr Halfpaw, however, looked unlike any person or creature Eragon had ever seen. At roughly four feet tall, he was the same height as a dwarf, but no one could have mistaken him for a dwarf, or even for a human. He had a small, pointed chin, wide cheekbones, and, underneath unswept brows, slanted green eyes fringed with winglike eyelashes. In the front, his ragged black hair hung low over his forehead, while on the sides and back, it fell to his shoulders, where it lay smooth and lustrous, much like the manes of his companions. His age was impossible for Eragon to guess.
The only clothes Grimrr wore were a rough leather vest and a rabbit-skin loincloth. The skulls of a dozen or so animals–birds, mice, and other small game–were tied to the front of the vest, and they rattled against one another as he moved. A sheathed dagger protruded at an angle from under the belt of his loincloth. Numerous scars, thin and white, marked his nut-brown skin, like scratches on a well-used chair or table. And, as his name indicated, he was missing two fingers on his left hand; they looked to have been bitten off.
Despite the delicacy of his features, there was no doubt that Grimrr was male, not given the hard, sinewy muscles of his arms and chest, the narrowness of his hips, and the coiled power of his stride as he walked down the length of the hall toward Nasuada.
None of the werecats seemed to notice the people lined up on either side of their path, watching them, until Grimrr came level with the herbalist Angela, who stood next to Roran, knitting a tube sock with six needles at once.
Grimrr’s eyes narrowed as he beheld the herbalist, and his hair rippled and spiked, as did that of his four guards. His lips drew back to reveal a pair of curved white fangs, and, to Eragon’s astonishment, he uttered a short, loud hiss.
Angela looked up from the sock, her expression languid and insolent. “Cheep cheep,” she said.
For a moment, Eragon thought that the werecat was going to attack her. A dark flush mottled Grimrr’s neck and face, his nostrils flared, and he stared silently at her. The other werecats settled into low crouches, ready to pounce, their ears pressed flat against their heads.
Throughout the hall, Eragon heard the slither of blades being drawn from their scabbards.
Grimrr hissed once more, then turned away from the herbalist and continued walking. As the last werecat in line passed Angela, he took a surreptitious swipe at the line of yarn that drooped from her needles, just like a playful house cat might.
Saphira’s bewilderment was equal to Eragon’s own. Cheep cheep? she asked.
He shrugged, forgetting that she could not see him. Who knows why Angela does or says anything?
At last, Grimrr arrived before Nasuada. He stopped and inclined his head ever so slightly, displaying with his bearing the supreme confidence, even arrogance, that was the sole province of cats, dragons, and certain highborn women.
“Lady Nasuada,” he said. His voice was surprisingly deep, more akin to the low, coughing roar of a male wildcat than the high-pitched tones of the boy he resembled.
Nasuada inclined her head in turn. “King Halfpaw. You are most welcome to the Varden, you and all your race. I must apologize for King Orrin’s absence; he could not be here to greet you, as he wished, for he and his horsemen are even now busy defending our westward flank from a contingent of Galbatorix’s troops.”
“Of course, Lady Nasuada,” said Grimrr. His sharp teeth flashed as he spoke. “You must never turn your back on your enemies.”
“Even so…. And to what do we owe the unexpected pleasure of this visit, Your Highness? Werecats have always been noted for their secrecy and their solitude, and for remaining apart from the conflicts of the age, especially since the fall of the Riders. One might even say that your kind has become more myth than fact over the past century. Why, then, do you now choose to reveal yourselves?”
Grimrr lifted his right arm and pointed at Eragon with a crooked finger topped by a clawlike nail, shocking Eragon out of his latest round of waking dreams, which had involved an Urgal, a dwarf, and a pair of swords made of ice.
“Because of him,” growled the werecat. “One does not attack another hunter until he has shown his weakness, and Galbatorix has shown us his: he will not kill Eragon Shadeslayer or Saphira Bjartskular. Long have we waited for this opportunity, and seize it we will. Galbatorix will learn to fear and hate us, and, at the last, he will realize the extent of his mistake and know that we were the ones responsible for his undoing. And how sweet that revenge will taste, as sweet as the marrow of a tender young boar.
“Time has come, human, for every race, even werecats, to stand together and prove to Galbatorix that he has not broken our will to fight. We would join your army, Lady Nasuada, as free allies, and help you achieve this.”
Whatever Nasuada was thinking, Eragon could not tell, but, for himself, he was impressed by the werecat’s speech, as was Saphira.
After a brief pause, Nasuada said, “Your words fall most pleasantly upon my ears, Your Highness. But before I can accept your offer, there are answers I must have of you, if you are willing.”
With an air of unshakable indifference, Grimrr waved a hand. “I am.”
“Your race has been so secretive and elusive, I must confess, I had not heard tell of Your Highness until this very day. As a point of fact, I did not even know your race had a ruler.
“I am not a king like your kings,” said Grimrr. “For the most part, werecats prefer to walk alone, but even we must choose a ruler to lead us to war when we go.”
“I see. Do you speak for your whole race, then, or only for those who travel with you?”
Grimrr’s chest swelled, and his expression became, if possible, even more self-satisfied. “I speak for all of my kind, Lady Nasuada,” he purred. “Every able-bodied werecat in Alagaësia, save those who are nursing, has come here to fight. There are few of us, but none can equal our ferocity in battle. And I can also command the one-shapes, although I cannot speak for them, for they are as dumb as other animals. Still, they will do what we ask of them.”
“One-shapes?” Nusuada inquired.
“Those you know as cats. Those who cannot change their skins, as we do.”
“And you command their loyalty?”
“Aye. They admire us… it is only natural.”
If what he says is true, Eragon commented to Saphira, the werecats could prove to be incredibly valuable.
Then Nasuada said, “And what is it you desire of us in exchange for your assistance, King Halfpaw?” She glanced at Eragon and smiled, then added, “We can offer you as much cream as you want, but beyond that, our resources are limited. If your warriors expect to be paid for their troubles, I fear they will be sorely disappointed.”
“Cream is for kittens, and gold holds no interest for us,” said Grimrr. As he spoke, he lifted his right hand and inspected his nails with a heavy-lidded gaze. “Our terms are thus: Each of us will be given a dagger to fight with, if we do not already have one. Each of us is to have two suits of armor made to fit, one for when on two legs we stand, and one for when on four. We need no other equipment than that: no tents, no blankets, no plates, no spoons. Each of us will be promised a single duck, grouse, chicken, or similar bird per day, and, every second day, a bowl of freshly chopped liver. Even if we do not choose to eat it, the food will be set aside for us. Also, if you should win this war, then whoever becomes your next king or queen—and all who claim that title thereafter—will keep a padded cushion next to their throne, in a place of honor, for one of us to sit on, if we so wish.”
“You bargain like a dwarven lawgiver,” said Nasuada in a dry tone. She leaned over to Jörmundur, and Eragon heard her whisper, “Do we have enough liver to feed them all?”
“I think so,” Jörmundur replied in an equally hushed voice. “But it depends on the size of the bowl.”
Nasuada straightened in her seat. “Two sets of armor is one too many, King Halfpaw. Your warriors will have to decide whether they want to fight as cats or as humans and then abide by the decision. I cannot afford to outfit them for both.”
If Grimrr had had a tail, Eragon was sure it would have twitched back and forth. As it was, the werecat merely shifted his position, as if uneasy to be standing in one place for so long. “Very well, Lady Nasuada.”
“There is one more thing. Galbatorix has spies and killers hidden everywhere. Therefore, as a condition of joining the Varden, you must consent to allow one of our spellcasters to examine your memories, so that we may assure ourselves that Galbatorix has no claim on you.”
Grimrr sniffed. “You would be foolish not to. If anyone is brave enough to read our thoughts, let them. But not her,” and he twisted to point at Angela. “Never her.”
Nasuada hesitated, and Eragon could see that she wanted to ask why but restrained herself. “So be it. I will send for magicians at once, that we may settle this matter without delay. Depending on what they find—and it will be nothing untoward, I’m sure—I am honored to form an alliance between you and the Varden, King Halfpaw.”
At her words, all of the humans in the hall broke out cheering and began to clap, including Angela. Even the elves appeared pleased.
The werecats, however, did not react, except to tilt their ears backward in annoyance at the noise.
A grand thank you of gratitude goes to Allie for helping transcribe the chapter. I hope you enjoyed it and I encourage you to discuss it in the comments.
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Are any of you planning to buy the paperback edition of Brisingr?
I love this so much. Thanks!
Hey Bookie what do you think about the Inheritance Cycle’s relation to Star Wars. If it follows the pattern it’s been and ends like Star Wars, then the servant of the king/emperor would save the lone Rider/Jedi (in this case Murtaugh saving Eragon in his moments of defeat), rising up to slay the king in the final moments in order to save him, but also losing his life in the process. And also, let’s not forget the dream Eragon had in the first book where the people leave the land with the dragons overhead. These two being Eragon and the new rider. Eragon would have to leave because the tree in the elfish woods would demand it because of her dislikes of dragons, and the person on the beach yelling would be Roran who will become king after Galbatorix is defeated.
I would like to know when book 4 will be completely finished .Maybe just a estimated date so I can send it to my son,
Andrew Z… I also think that books do, in a way, resemble the Star Wars saga, but I do not think that Murtaugh will die saving Eragon because one, that would really suck, and two, I think it would be more fitting if the king’s dragon finally turns against him, because Shrukin (however you spell it) is tired of being the king’s dragon, after all the king killed his original rider… and I doubt that they would leave because of the Tree, but like you said, because of his dream, and people cursing him, saying he will have to leave the land in the end, so he probably will… whether Roran is the one on the beach I don’t know.
Thank you so much for this chapter, I was looking almost a year for any chapter of the new book and thanks to you I finally read it so thanks!
You couldn’t have been looking for the King Cat chapter for nearly a year, it’s been less than a year since Brisingr released, much less Legacy (oops did I say Legacy, I meant the fourth book ;D).
Legacy? How do you know that’s the fourth book’s name?
Sounds like a cool title. Let me know if it’s real. ;-)
Andrew z –
They we would also find out that Arya is his sister! :D haha… Though somehow I could see it happening…
Andrew z- omg I thought I was the only one who thought it resembled the Star Wars saga, though I was thinking more along the lies of Luke’s teachers. You know how he has a teacher who dies so that he could survive and then Luke goes to Obi’s teacher Yoda and then he has to leave to save his friends but returns but Yoda dies…I think I was just rambling, but I hope you get the point. Also there is that whole evil driving all the good people to almost extinction theme going on.
I think (hope, more like it lol) that Nasuada would be the new ruler; I can’t see Roran leading people in that way, if you get what I mean. He was great when leading the villagers out of Carvahall and all, but he’s too humble to become a king.
And of course that dream was about him leaving with the new rider! (I don’t want Roran to be the new Rider coz that would mean he would have to leave Katerina/outlive her, and also if his dragon and Saphira get together…you know creepy. Same thing for Thorn and Saphira- it’ll be Eragon’s half-brother’s dragon Saphira is mating with! Though I doubt it would be Arya. I kinda hope that Christopher introduces another girl character who Eragon falls for- don’t get me wrong, I like Arya/Eragon, but I think it’s kinda cliche.) Thought that theory about it being because the tree told him to is kinda outlandish. I think that the woman in the tree (her name escapes me right now) would turn back into an elf because (ok this is my romantic fantasy lol) she wanted to have a child and never could, so she almost demand sit of Eragon. I know, horrible idea. My gosh I’m babbling. Ok, I’m done now.
This was a great except, and I can’t wait to read the book!
Thank you I’ve been waiting for an inkling of hope since reading the last cliffhanging page of “Brisingr”, and now I’m just waiting for this last book it will be in my e-cart a month before release.This excerpt was well written and in true Paolini fashion leaves wondering and wanting more!!!!………I CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
On the 15th or 16th Paragraph there is a spelling mistake. Yout misswrote Grimrr’s name you wrote “Grimmr” ( please fix it ASAP )… Other than that I didn’t c any thing wrong, and I thank you so much for posting this, I am very gratefull to u guys.
The book isn’t called Legacy.
release date anyone?
Paragraph 9 second sentence: “Then a flaxen-haired page dress in a tunic…” should read dressed. Also paragraph 24 second sentence “He stoped and inclined his head…” should read stopped.
Thank you Dmitrii! I will fix those mistakes right away; tell me if you glimpse any more.
Paragraph 28, sentence 3: “One might even say that you kind…” should be your.
P.S. Great to see the werecats, can’t really see where this will lead?
Thanks! As for the werecats, I think that their full potential can’t be revealed in this one chapter, and if anything, at least they’re there to even out the odds of who’s going to win the war.
I can totally see where it’s going…. I’m not sure how “powerful” they’re gonna be, but I think its obvious that if the werecats can control cats. They will use the cats in Gallabortrax’s kingdom to steal the last dragon egg.
Oh wow, I haven’t thought of it that way! Nice theory; and quite possible actually – do you suppose that Grimmr’s words (“…and, at the last, he will realize the extent of his mistake and know that we were the ones responsible for his undoing”) are foreshadowing this?
The werecats might also be able to steal some of the Eldunarya from Galbatorix, not just the last dragon egg.
The Werecats could easily use normal cats to be spies, who would suspect them? i.e, send them into guardposts, citadels, etc. as they have the agility to slink around anywhere.
Wow!Somebody who can actually spell the plural of eldunari correctly!My god I’m gratified :)
maybe the werecats can control the entire family of cats, including tigers, lions, etc?
then they would pwn galby
It says that he has only met Solembum. He met that one in the elf’s city with the elf queen right?
Actually it says that Solembum was the only werecat he saw in cat form, he saw the one in the elven city (Maud) in human form.
This is simply marvellous…..my undying thanks for posting this!!!!!!
Wow! I didn’t even realise that I read it twice. It doesn’t matter even if it were 100 times. At least I’ve got something to hold my patience and give me hope of the soon coming “King Cat”. May the work of your hands be blessed. I really waited for this book, God knows how long, but take your time Christopher Paolini. I know it will just come as perfect as it sounds!
Hey Bookie, thanks for publishing this, I’ve been waiting for the 4th book for some time now and this helped make me less anxious.
I read Brisingr in April so I’ve only been waiting for a couple of months now. But I still can’t wait for book four. By the way, thanks Bookie for posting this.
Your very welcome John, Naomi, and Albus! I loved reading this chapter and it was my pleasure to make it available to other fans. :)
i cant wait for the 4th book!!! i just knew the werecats were gonna get involved somehow. the tree (you know, that huge one where he found the star stuff) has to be involved ,too. remember that he felt a tingling inside him, almost like something was leaving him?the tree did that
Loved it, thank you, and to CP – I’m still wondering who the next rider will be… I’m guessing/hoping it’s either Arya or Elva… I think Angela may have been a werecat and was maybe banished from their race? She certainly has a lot of history with them.
Hmmm… That’s an interesting theory. And when she says “Cheep Cheep” (like a bird – cats hunt birds) it could be an indication of that.
I think “cheep cheep” means “don’t disturb me” or “leave me alone” or even “I come in peace”. Angela might be very powerful not to live under Grimmr’s rule. She rebelled and making things even worse, she built a closer relationship with Eragon, who Grimmr doesn’t seem to like, or even better, he fears him. Maybe it’s because Angela revealed too much about Eragon’s future, not pleasing Grimmr. Perhaps Solebum, who followed her, is powerful too, making Grimmr jealous.
That’s what I was thinking. Either she was banished or she made a choice to leave them.
Or when she says “cheep cheep,” she is teasing them!
I agree with J. Cheep cheep could mean that she escaped them somehow, like she puts herself in the position of a bird, and is taunting Grimmr.
What if Solebum is the true leader of the Werecats, and he and Grimmr fought, and Angela saved Solebum? i.e, she denied his kill or something
I am thinking the next rider will be Arya or Roran!
I don’t know, that’s just what I think…
And as for the “cheep, cheep” part, I agree with Monica and J: I think she escaped and is teasing them about it, but what is there to escape from with werecats? And I love the idea of Solembum being the King Eric *huge twist*!
I don’t think the next rider will be Roran because of all the stuff in Brisingr about him being only human and still such a great warrior. I think it’ll be a woman as to fit with Angela’s prophecy of Eragon’s epic romance. So possibly Arya, but I also think it could be someone new
I actually think that it will be RORAN or Ayra will be the next rider. Also, am I the only one who belives that the Vault of souls is full of Eldurni.
I think it’ll be Arya, Elva, or Solembum because if Roran became one then he couldn’t be with Katrina
As to the next rider my guess is still Arya, I also beleive she already has became the rider. During eldest when her and Eragon where fighting she stayed away from him for awhile due to his afection to her. If you remember when Eragon went to get Saphira where the dragons hatched their eggs he stepped on a broken green shell dragon egg. Sense Arya is already has magic and knows how to fight all that really need to happen is for her dragon to growup. Just a thought.
I think that the new rider will be Orik, because there has never been a dwarf dragonrider before. Plus he is Eragon’s “brother”. It would certainly be a huge twist.
I know a lot of people are hoping Arya, Roran, or Nasuada are going to be the next rider (very popular theories), but I think its going to be Arya. Not because it ties up the whole love affair, but because of this one little detail I think some have overlooked. Arya’s magic is green, and if Arya is going to be the rider of Greeni, well it makes sense doesn’t it? Eragon’s magic is blue.
Oh and somewhere else, I heard someone say that one reason Arya couldn’t be a rider is because Saphira didn’t hatch for her so therefore she wasn’t able to be a rider. I think not! I think I have proof as well. Infant dragons inside of eggs designate one person to be their rider while inside the egg, and will remain inside the egg until coming in contact with said soon to be rider. Proof- Oromis. They would have the elf children walk by SEVERAL eggs, touching each and hoping for one to hatch. I doubt that for all the new riders the first egg they touched was going to be the one that was their dragon.
Also, another reason why I doubt Roran and Nasuada will be the riders and I think Arya will: 1. Nasuada is already leader of the Varden and I doubt Paolini wants to go thru the process of writing a new leader selection process, expecially with no other suitable seeming person. And for Roran, in Eragons first vision of the boat and the two dragons in the sky, it was a male and female in the ship, and I think I can safely assume Eragon was one of the people on the ship.
I’m thinking the new rider will be one of the two elf children that watched Brisingr being made……they’ve only been hinted at, and everyone else has too much history to be a surprise.
And I wonder if “Cheep cheep” and the reaction, means Angela was a bird and snipped off the missing part of the werecat’s paw with her beak……
Oh! What if the new rider is the teenage girl that Eragon blessed in the third book? They were on a quest, which was never named….and Angela was reading her runes for her, which she doesn’t do for people who aren’t special……….food for thought anyway.
It can’t be Solembum or Angela (if she is a werecat, which is highly unlikely) or Orik, as dwarves and werecats weren’t included in the…. pact? Whatever it’s called. Hopefully, you know what I mean. I think CP might not make it Arya, since a lot of people are thinking it will be her, and he probably wants to surprise us. That would be really sad, ’cause I really want to see Arya be a Rider. I also agree that Angela is probably insulting or taunting Grimmr when she says “Cheep Cheep”. I also liked the humor in this chapter; the first time I read it, I kept laughing really hard while I read it. :D
Just to add my two cents in here, wasn’t it mentioned once that the new Rider will be someone who has appeared in all of the books? I believe this was said sometime when there were still supposed to be only three books. If it is true, this would narrow it down quite a bit.
Of all the characters I find Elva, Arya and Angela to be the most likely candidates. (Reasons as to why I don’t think it will be Roran or Nasuada or Orik etc. have already been mentioned.)
Of the three, I find Elva to be the most possible. Arya seems too obvious, and no one even knows if Angela is human. As disturbing, cynical and possibly evil Elva is, the only reason I find as to why it couldn’t be her is that she is too young, though she doesn’t appear so. (Remember, it was never mentioned what side the new Rider will be on. Elva is as likely to ally herself with Galbatorix as with the Varden.)
So, in the debate over who the next rider will be, the topic of Eragon’s prophacy was brought up and how Angela saw him and another rider sailing away with their dragons overhead. Well I began thinking that maybe that was a figuritive image. Paolini could really be looking to spice things up and have Eragon and the new rider die, in which case they would figuritively be leaving Alageasia, never to return. The person screaming to him from the beach could be his conciousness and Eragon leaving that in his death. Or I could be horribly wrong; it’s been a couple months since I’ve read the series. Even so, it’s just a thought.
DEFINITELY not Arya-That’s too obvious plus no way she’s gonna end up with Eragon
DEFINITELY not Roran-Mentioned above
DEFINITLEY not Nasuada-she’ll probably become the next queen,after all she’s the obvious choice-maybe there will be a plot twist?
PROBABLY not Elva-that would be too cruel on the poor young dragon to suffer all that misery
HOPEFULLY another female character for Eragon to fall in love with-someone he can actually be together and not 100 years older than him…I thought it might be one of the two women Eragon blessed,but he didn’t find any of them pretty or anything, so they are probably a different plot twist…hmm, there are many loose ends here.
My 2 cents.
Yours Truly I think you’re mistaken..
I think you all are.
The new rider is going to be Brom. Fact.
I spoke to Paolini a minute ago and he said that Saphira accidently placed her eldunari in the diamond tomb; it fell out of her nose when she sneezed or something. I can’t remember the details.
Anyway, she unconciously transferred herself into the eldunari after she tried to hump Glaedr; and Brom was all like: “Wtf!?”
Long story short, he ate the eldunari, and became the first Human-Dragon hybrid (Known as a Roflcopter).
Paolini didn’t tell me any more than that.
Yeah, I’m kidding.
Any theories on how Murtagh and King G store the eldunarya?
No backpack on the Burning Plaines!
JR-
I totally agree that the Vault of Souls contains Eldunarya. It only makes sense, because
a) An disgorged Eldunari contains a dragon’s consciousness, or soul, and
b) “and your power seems insufficient” – Solembum
These cats seem to be arrogant, even more than the elves. Do you think they’re more powerful? I very highly doubt so but thanks for this…
Oh and the Rock of Kuthian (in my opinion) is probably Brom’s tomb, which may be used as a power source (like the pommels on Zar’roc or Brisingr or even Brom’s Ring) and Kuthian is probably Brom’s real name. He’s my favourite character lol.
No, the Rock of Kuthian couldn’t be be Brom’s tomb. Someone would have to put energy in it for it to be used.
Saphira might have without realising, when she turned the tomb into diamond.
To be honest, they wouldn’t call it a “rock” if Saphira had turned it into diamond… And I’m not too sure, it seems that we’ve had enough macguffins that are giving Eragon energy to fight… we need something new. Say like a safehold for a certain green egg.
The Rock of Kuthian and the Vault of Souls probably indicate a place where there is a store of Eldunarya. Eldunarya are going to play a major role in this book.
I think the Rock of Kuthian will be something like the place where they stored all of the dragons’ Eldunarya, I can’t think of where it would be though…
Hmm, well it’s going to have something to do with energy, whether Brom’s or the dragons’, that’s for sure. A quick note to Katie and Nieo – the plural of Eldunari is “Eldunarya”, as Paolini said in this interview, so I’ve taken the liberty of editing your comments and changing it to that, okay?
I think that the Rock of Kuthian is at the site where the dragons went to die (mentioned in Eldest). Eragon and Saphira both wanted to stop and visit but were in such a hurry to get back to the Varden. It would make quite a bit of sense.
I don’t think the Rock of Kuthian will contain Eldunarya, otherwise the confrontation between Eragon and Galbatorix will end up being a “now, who’s got more batteries?” kind of battle. And, speaking of energy containers, I have been on various forums, but I have seen that no one remembers that there is still Isidar Mithrim to be fixed, and I think it will have a role… can you imagine it being enchanted to draw all of Alagaesia’s power? It would be a little too much Dragon Ball, though…
Lol, “who’s got more batteries”, love that analogy. :D Unless I’m missing something though, Isidar Mithrim was indeed fixed by Saphira in Brisingr. I can still imagine it containing vast amounts of energy that neither Eragon nor Saphira are yet aware of, or, like you said, drawing all of Alagaesia’s power; so perhaps Isidar Mithrim is the Rock of Kuthian? Can’t see how a glass rose can be a rock, but hey, you never know!
That’s not possible; the vault of souls has been around for a while. “Vault” implies that it can be opened and Eragon’s name (I think it will be his true name) opens it, allowing him access to what ever is inside. I think that it will be the egg. And who will lead him to the Vault of Souls? The werecats, the ones who told him about it.
I think the Vault of Souls would be a huge store of Eldunarya that no one, not even Galbatorix, knows about, because Solumbum says to Eragon something like “when all seems lost, travel to the Vault of Souls”. here, Eragon will speak the true name of the dragons. I think the last wild dragons went to die, spilling their Eldunarya and sealing off the Vault. It will open, and Eragon will have enough power to confront Galbatorix. Just a theory.
I agree that the Rock of Kuthian will have alot to do with the Eldunarya, but I think it will be a way for Eragon to unlock the souls of the dragons from the Eldunarya and hence use the rest of their latent power. This would explain why the Vault of Souls would be the name of the place of power as the souls of the Dragons are contained within the Eldunarya.
I think that the Rock of Kuthian will be at Du Fells Nangoroth the mountains in the middle of the Hadarac Desert and that the vault of souls is in side of it. Eragon will speak either A) his true name or B) the true name of the ancient language, and he will open it to find either A) Eldunari or B) the name of the ancient language (if he does not know it to open it).
P.S. Brom is awesome and I wish that he didn’t have to die
What I don’t want is another “Oh my it’s my parents, their ghosts will save me!” or a “Ok, I’ve opened it, what is inside? Ooooh an undead army, and as I am called Eragon, the same as the first Rider, I automatically control it.”
There are so many shoddy but easily used endings that i do not want :(
I agree with Eric, an ending like that just wouldn’t be right. I’m almost certain that Paolini has something unexpected planned, and though I suppose it’s possible that the Rock of Kuthian could be in the Hadarac Desert, I don’t believe it will be.
P.S. Thanks for this chapter Bookie, I know the rest of the book will be just as great when I finally get it. :)
I think it will be a cave of the Riders or dragon weapons or a secret put there to give Eragon the weakness of the king.
In the thrid book, Arya told Eragon about the Banishing of Names, when all the dragons in the forsworn lost their names, right? She said that nobody could remember ther names. Then, when Eragaon inquired Oramis and Arya about the Rock of Kuthien, they said that the name sounded firmilier, “like a long lost dream”. They said it as if they had once known the name Kuthien. So, what I am saying is: What if Kuthien is the name of one of the dragons who lost his name in the Banishing of the Names? Maybe the Rock of Kuthien is his Eldunari or something important to him/her. Just something to think about
I think that the rock of Kuthian, and vault of souls is something that Eragon has already come across, or has a suspicion about.
I alks belive that the vault of souls contain eldurni. I’ve thought that right when I first read it.
I believe that the rock of kuthian will be in mountain in the center of the dessert. Saphira seems always drawn to the place. My guess is it once was a place dragon hatch but was distroyed during the war with the elfs.
Considering that Arya and Oromis vaguely remembered hearing of the Rock of Kuthian, i am pretty sure that it is not Brom’s tomb.
Another possibility, perhaps the Rock of Kuthian is a place where the last of the surviving dragons are staying? If you think about it, there is a very small chance that a race as powerful as the dragons could be entirely wiped out by the Forsworn and their allies. And in such a short amount of time! How is it that Saphira, Shruikan, Thorn, Glaedr, and the last egg are the very last surviving members of a hugely powerful and ancient race? It just doesn’t seem very logical.
I do agree that the Vault of Souls may be a place where the dragons stored Eldunarya.
Also, has anyone ever thought about where the original Eragon and Bid’Daum went? It is never told in the books what happened to them. I think that Bid’Daum is in fact all or part of the Spine. Galbatorix lost many armies in the Spine, and it is not very well explored. Plus, dragons continue to grow as they age. Bid’Daum was born during the Du Fyrn Skulblaka, which means that he is many, many centuries old. He could easily have grown to be the size of a mountain.
Eragon I could also be guarding, or in the Vault of Souls (we don’t truly know if the Vault actually holds souls, or is just a sort of store house for Eldunarya) If Eragon I is at the Vault of Souls, then he could be a great ally and help end the war with Galbatorix. Or, he could be at the Rock of Kuthian.
Just something that I was wondering.
I agree with many of you on your Vault of Souls theories. I think that the “Souls” are the souls of the dragons trapped in their Eldunari. The name that Eragon has to speak could either be his true name (which I think and hope he will discover in the last book) or it could be the true name of the Ancient Language. Brom said in the first book that one who knew that would have power over all who used that language, including Galbatorix.
Refering to my earlier comment, what if the Rock of Kuthien is an Eldunari that belonged to one of the dragons that served for the Forwsworn? Could someone else give me their opinion on my theory please.
hey bman, your theory was very very good. the only thing I think is different about what you said is that what if instead of Kuthien being the Eldunari of one of the Forsworns dragons, the name of the the location was banished so no one would be able to find the vault of souls which could possibly contain immense power
I doubt it is Brom’s tomb, as both Arya and Oromis said that the name struck a familiar chord in their memories, but they couldn’t recall the exact memory. If it was Brom’s tomb, Oromis and Arya wouldn’t have known about the Rock of Kuthian. Also, if we assume that the Rock of Kuthian/Vault of Souls contains Eldunarya, then it can’t be Brom’s tomb, as when Eragon buried him there, he didn’t sense or notice anything.
Wouldn’t the Rock of Kuthian have something to do with the dwarves? Solembums advice included the Menoa TREE. Trees are something elves hold very close to their hearts. Isn’t it possible that the ROCK of Kuthian is somewhere in the Beors since rocks are what dwarves hold very close to their heart? Since Eragon was adopted by Hrothgar in book 2, it could possibly give him access to the rock since he is practically a dwarf in all but blood.
The name struck a cord in Arya’s and Oromis’s memory, but they are elves. Eragon never mentioned this to any dwarf. I’m sure Orik would easily be able to tell Eragon what the Rock of Kuthian is.
Bman, i never thought like that. now that you brought it up though, it makes sense for Kuthian to be the name of a Forsworn’s dragon. but it also makes sense that the Rock of Kuthian could be something in the Beors, something that has to do with the Dwarf race. i guess we will just have to wait and see. i dont like the waiting part though!
i believe the Vault of Souls is where Galby keeps his Eldunari. and may be a lil off topic but i swear, Roran is the new Rider. . . .Think about it, the sword in ellesmera (however you spell it) was to different of a fighting style for Eragon. It said it was for someone who slashed and stabbed. Well Roran. . .Hmmmm, He uses a friggen hammer and he’s bigger then Eragon as explained in book 2. So the sword would fit his body, and also it would fit his fighting style.
thanks for the insight will and alan. i completely agree with you both. The rock of kuthien can be anything other than an eldunari while still having some connection to one of the forsworn. thanks again.
The vault of souls is souls. Not hearts. Eldinari are supposed to be heart of hearts. So the vault of souls is probably where the souls are of every dead person in alagasia. So eragon will be able to use their combined strength to overpower galby and his eldinari
I don´t think Kuthian is the name of one of the Forsworn.
If I remember correctly, the names were banished so no one could remember or speak them, and since Eragon, Arya and Oromis can say it…
Isidar Mithrim was fixed by Saphira after the coronation of Orik. But it is a rock, not glass (?). Didn´t it take years and year to be finished because the role thing was only one rock? I like the idea of the rock of Kuthia being something from the Beors.
@Bman That’s exactly what I thought too! Weird…Anyway, Eragon will probably have to use his ordinary name, after all hey noone knew his true name before he was born so it wouldnt make sense that it could be a code for unlocking a Vault…I don’t think there will be Eldunari in there, for “the battery argument” :D Can’t wait to see what CP will do with that.I like the soul release idea…
has anyone thought that the vault of souls contained actual souls? Eragon and Arya encountered some together. i think either the spirits ressurrect some Riders and their dragons, they give him energy to defeat the king, or they themselves go to battle.
also i think that the qween of elves is going to die,so Arya will have to take her place, therefore she cant be a Rider. maybe Katrina will be killed by Murtagh and Roran will be the next Rider and he’ll want revenge. that would put Murtagh out of the picture.and Nasuada cant be the next rider because shell be too busy with the varden, and she cant be the next queen because shell probably be tired of being a leader by then.
either way Nasuada has to play an important roll in the story because in Brisingr CP made a chapter frome her point of view.an auther doesnt just do that to any random characters
Elva would be a pretty scary Dragon Rider, i have to admit. but she might choose to just be free and go away from the war, or go with Galbatorix.
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What a coincidence YoursTruly. Samira, the when Arya explains about the banishing of names, she says that the names can be read if you look at one letter at a time. I think that also applies to speach since you can only speak on sylable at a time. She never said that the names couldnt be spoken. Also, in the name The Rock of Kuthien, Kuthien refers to the name of a rock of some sort. Since the names of the dragons in the forsworn names were banished, not the name of any particular rock, people would still be able to use the name Kuthien when talking about the Rock of Kuthien. That is, obviously, only if mine an YoursTrulys theory is correct
My theory,
The rock of Kuthian is brom’s tomb, and the vault of souls contains, either eldunarya or the souls of the dead. Brom”s body is preserved in his tomb, therefore Eragon could go to the vault of souls, get Brom’s soul. And Brom would be resurrected-the final rider
Umm I’m not so sure about that theory mainly because solembum mentioned the rock of kuthien before brom died or even recently after( I can’t remember I just know it was close) so I think that’s a bit too soon to be made into a legendary rock. As for the other theories I think Angela is gonna have a bigger role in this, maybe turning out to be someone not who she says she is ( eragons mom?) perhaps?
does anyone here think it weird that the old guy eragon ran into after sending sloan to the elves knew Angela? i’m thinking something should be revealed between these two.
It is great that this came out, it means it can’t be too long ’til book 4 comes out.
Judging by the time it took in between the first three books, it should come out this year…
Especially when he was 100+ pages in when Brisingr was published.
The book will come out next year since he published Eragon’s guide to Alagaesia this year and it will take some time to finish the fourth book since he was writing a different book at the time.
It’s been drivin me crazy. I really want to read this next book. Heck even give us a progress report or something.
In paragraph 25 it says, “His voice was surprisingly deep, more akin to the low, coughing roar of a male wildcat that the high-pitched tones of the boy he resembled.” It should say than. That was the only mistake I found.
This makes me so excited for Book 4! Thanks for posting this!
Aha~! Thanks for catching another sneaky mistake! :)
Paragraph 31 says “Galbatorix will learn to fear and hate us, and, at the very last, he will learn…” should say “at the very least”.
Actually, I’ll have to go ahead and say no. :D Are you comparing the words with the actual excerpt or with your logic and common sense? Because your correction would indeed make sense, but my copy of the excerpt clearly says “at the very last”. You might want check that again and get back to me! (There’s also a possibility this might be an early draft mistake Paolini made.)
No, “at the very last” would mean “around when Galbatorix realizes he is about to fail / be defeated”.
Mhm, that’s what I’m thinking. Either way, “at the last” is the official words written in the excerpt, so I will not change them.
it could mean something along the lines of “in the end”
In the second paragraph who is this Lord Bradburn; I’m guessing the Lord of Beletona or Dras Leona and I really want to know what fight took place and what happened! Why can’t this book come out faster!
Mm, interesting. I didn’t really think about Lord Bradburn or the battle, mostly because I don’t consider it important enough. It’s hard to tell what’s important or not though, as this is only a small glimpse into the fourth book.
I’d guess Belatona. There is an abundance of cream, which means that it’s a trade city. Belatona is one of the biggest trade cities in Alagaesia. Also is the governor of Dras-Leona: Marcus Tábor, even though punished by Galbatorix. And I think that since this is only the fourth chapter they’re not that far yet.
I’m thinking it was actually a representative sent for King Orrin. It says he wasn’t there and so it makes sense that he would send someone to look after his interests; also they would be there to represent Surda in the agreement with the werecats. Plus he was clearly designated as Lord, not King, which would imply he is sworn to somebody else. At least that’s the way it would’ve been done in “ye olde days”.
If it was Belatona, they probably would have captured a lot of money, much less CREAM. haha.
Omg that’s like…I don’t even know what to say, but you are officially awesome.
Does anyone else think that the reason for the animosity between Angela and Grimrr might be because of Solembum… this anger might extend to Solembum to; could it be a feud between Solembum and Grimrr, because Angela helped Solembum?
Or perhaps that Angela knows too much about werecats by befriending Solembum? We don’t really see or hear about Solembum in this chapter, so we can’t know whether the relationship between him and Grimrr is positive or negative, but I, like you, am betting that Solembum is somehow involved!
I think Angela isn’t even human, the way she keeps on hinting that she is older than she seems (the explanation she gave to Eragon in Teirm that she seems young because she eats her own herbs seemed more like a jest than a fact)and the old man Tenga, who Eragon met on his way back to Varden, being her master at some point also hints that she is definitely something much much powerful that even the cat king doesn’t take offense at whatever she says, though he is definitely rattled by it.
I think your on to something there. It seems strange to me that Solembum wasn’t in this chapter as he’s a werecat. I wonder if Solembum will fight with the werecats or stay with Angela. The King says he speaks for all his race but maybe Solembum betrayed them or something when he chose to live with Angela even though they don’t like her.
Perhaps it was Solembum that bit off Grimrr’s fingers in a fight for leadership?
i think she is an elf, i am thinking of Oromis’s reaction to her name when Eragon mentions her
Maybe Grimrr does not like the fact that Solembum Stays with Angela?
I think that Angela is half elf half human, because she is older than she looks (Arya is much older than she looks, etc), she trained with an elf (I doubt that an elf would consent to train a human because humans are much less powerful than elves), she is not a normal human (she’s too powerful and solembum follows her around), and she has been to Ellesmera (which would hint that she is not human, likely elvish to be welcomed or allowed to enter)….
I bet Glaedr will play a big part in this; as well his strength and experience will help Eragon and Saphira quite well.
But also, remember, Glaedr has to wait 7 years, I believe, before reaching full strength, which will be a problem
Where did it say Glaedr will have to wait 7 years?
What he had meant was that an Eldunari has to wait about 7 years in order to obtain the maximum amount of energy it can.
I don’t remember ever seeing anything like that… Perhaps I am mistaken? Can anyone tell me where this was mentioned? (In Brisingr, I am sure, because that’s when they tell Eragon and Saphira about the Eldunarya.) But I just don’t seem to recall that conversation.
Yes, I don’t recall the “seven years” thing whatsoever; if you can list a page, I’ll be happy to look it up, and Bookie, you did very good with this.
Never mind, I found it, but it says on the third line from the bottom of page 635 that whatever spare energy the dragons have goes with them and continues to grow at a steady pace until they can hold no more, which takes 5 to 7 years. So you’re kind of correct, but the original statement I made was that Glaedr would help; I’m sure he wouldn’t use 100% of the energy he has now, he is still strong and wise, so you and I were both correct.
When Eragon first learns about the heart of hearts from Oromis, he says that the heart of hearts starts off with the amount of energy contained in the dragons body, then at a steady pace for the next 7 years, the energy increases until it is at full strength.
Thanks for publishing this. I have been waiting quite impatiently for the fourth book to be available. This only makes the wait more intense. I think that Thorn and Murtaugh will play larger roles in Book 4, but I believe that Eragon will need the help from ‘The Rock of Kuthian’ to defeat him. Once he does that and (perhaps) manages to help change his real name, they might be able to overthrow Galbatorix with everyone’s help together (including the werecats). Ultimately, I think the final showdown will be less fierce and bloody than originally thought. I would like to see Eragon free Shruikan from his bonds and have the dragon kill Galbatorix in revenge. But hey, these are just thoughts. Can’t wait to read the real thing!!!!
I never thought about that… The whole ‘Eragon releasing Shriukan from his bonds to Galbatorix, so he can go and attack him’. That is a really interesting theory, I wonder if you are right… But I loved this sneak peek into Book 4, it was more than I could have ever hoped or dreamed about! Now I am having an even harder time waiting for the release date. Come on Christopher, you are so awesome! I have complete faith in you that you can get this book done by the summer! You just have to work really hard! It can’t be that far from finished, either. You are almost there, I just know it! Keep going, don’t let us down!
I think the Rock of Kuthian could, maybe, be something vastly powerful left behind by the Gray Folk. Any suggestions?
I actually think Eragon freeing Shruikan from Galbatorix so that the dragon could have revenge would be really anti-climactic, because I’ve been hoping for an epic duel between Eragon and Galbatorix; but I think Eragon will try to save Shruikan, but he may have to kill him, too.
I personally think that if Shruikan is freed, that he would go off by himself to do some sort of really dangerous task in the hopes that he would die. His original Rider is dead, although Shruikan probably didn’t know him that well because he was only a hatchling. But I suspect a big dragon-back fight scene because it would reveal a lot to us of Galby’s true character by his fighting style.
What would be really cool is if Shruikan gave Eragon his Eldunari, and with that, Eragon learns Galbatorix’s ultimate weakness, and then there is a final duel between Eragon and Galbatorix. Just a thought. :D
Ian… that’s the same thought I had… and what about the old man Eragon visited just after Roran’s wedding? The old man rambling on about “the lights” and that Murtaugh’s wasn’t as bright as Eragon’s and the Murtaugh’s seemed to be coming from some where else, where as Eragon’s came from himself. the old man was probably referring to the Eldunarya because Murtaugh has a lot of them, where as Eragon only have one: Glaedr’s. Just a thought! :D
I’m pretty sure he isn’t going to free Shuriken. Galbo bent Shuriken to his will early on before he had all the known Eldunari in his possession. During the epic battle in the 3rd book, Galbo is leagues away from the battle, yet he still takes control.
Has anyone ever wondered this or is it just me; What if Murtaugh tells Eragon his true name so Eragon could cancel what Galbatorix told him to do? Or maybe something along the lines of that. Maybe if Eragon learns his own true name, he could tell it to someone he trusts with his life (Arya, Roran, someone like that) so that if Galbatorix learns it, he can get out of the pickle of having to listen to Galbatorix’s orders. Just a thought.
@Sally
Hey, that’s a great idea…It goes with the whole”Eragon-tries-to-make-a-good-guy-outta-murtagh” theme of all their encounters after Thorn’s hatching… Murtagh would end up having to trust Eragon,risking his life for Alagaesia…and as CP mentioned in an interview if a person had to obey two different orders in his true name he/she would probably be incapacitated, unable to do anything…it would make sense thaat the final battle between Eragon and Galby would be who could control Murtagh to kill the other…EPIC
I love it, hope that the book will come out soon.
Thank you. Don’t we all hope it comes out soon?
Cannot wait for Book Four… this chapter just shows the conclusion of the series will be GREAT!
Hey! I’m a huge fan of the Inheritance Cycle series – my whole family is. I just have one question. Who’s Lord Bradburn? I’ve read the entire series, and I don’t recall you mentioning him. But it’s been a while, so sorry if you did and I forgot about him. I also wanted to say that I can’t wait for the fourth book two come out. Please hurry up – the suspense is killing me!
Maybe Lord Bradburn is a new character who is mentioned in one or all of the three chapters before King Cat? Remember, this is the fourth chapter of the book.
That was TOTALLY AWESOME!!! I can’t believe that the werecats have a king and that they will fight for the Varden!
I know! Strangely, I never really thought of there being a large werecat population, just a scattering every generation or so.
I thought that in Eragon, Brom had said that werecats had died out when the dragons did.
He said that they faded away becoming less prominent. He never said they died, just that they sort of went off radar.
In the third to last paragraph, it says “that we may settle this matter” it should say “SO that we may settle this matter”.
No, sorry, I don’t think that’s a mistake. You are going with what seems logical to you had you been writing the book; I am going with what I see written on the pages of the excerpt. If you could take a photo of your copy of the excerpt with that exact line, I would be willing to reconsider. Otherwise, please double check before pointing out “mistakes”.
I think I may know what’s inside the Vault of Souls. What if it’s a load of Spirits? How much difference can there be between a Spirit and a Soul? It would turn out to be a battle between Spirits and Eldunarya! If Beings as powerful as Shades are made from a mere few spirits, imagine an army of them at Eragon’s disposal! They’re even described on page 212 in Brisingr as “like a sleeping dragon”. Arya refused to tell Eragon about too much of them as they might interfere with Oromis’ lessons. Glaedr will obviously tell them through his Eldunari…
And another thing: Jeod gave Eragon the book Domia abr Wyrda, which was created by Heslant the Monk. This Monk was part of “a small, secretive sect called the Arcaena that originated in the are by Kuasta. Their order, which has endured for at least five hundred years, believes that all knowledge is sacred”. Jeod also says that “they have dedicated themselves to collecting every piece of information in the world and preserving it against a time when they believe an unspecified catastrophe will destroy all the civilizations of Alagaesia” :D What if this Sect know where the Rock of Kuthian is? Also, Angela or even Tenga may be a part of this Sect? Another reason for werecats to hate them…? …for knowing too much?
Ooo this has really got me going for the next book to come out! :D
That’s an awesome idea! It could be very possible, but at the same time very risky to Eragon. If he finds a whole lot of spirits and tries to take control of them, I think it would really seem to go against Eragon’s character. And remember, if he does try to control them, he could be turned into a Shade if he lost control. Based on how they were described in Brisingr, I dont think they would willingly serve anyone. I mean, they’re spirits. Why should they care about wat happens to the world?
No, you miss-understood my theory, I was so excited to have come up with it I obviously didn’t get my whole view across.
If Eragon has to say his true name, couldn’t he be more like a leader to the spirits? Instead of him controlling them, what if the spirits help him on their own accord? That way it would be the power that the spirits give to Eragon against the power of Galbatorix’s Eldunarya. It’d give Eragon just as much power as Galbatorix, or at least make them more evenly matched. As for WHY they’d help him of their own accord… Obviously it’d have something to do with his True Name, but that’s the best way I can think of in order to even out Galbatorix’s big advantage.
The other one would be to somehow get rid of Galbatorix’s Eldunarya… but that seams a bit too predictable and something that would happen in any old book. I’d like to see Eragon receive power to match Galby, rather than Galby loose power before his downfall.
yes, that makes it much clearer. i do think the spirits following him would be very different, as i have said, it would go against his nature to bind them like a sorcerer.
Your theory is quite amazing and something that is definitely possible since spirits have been mentioned many times in Brisingr..
But I just thought that it will be too ‘Lord Of The Rings’-like to have Eragon control spirits by command of his name as Aragorn controlled ghosts/souls of murderers and traitors in LOTR..
The theory about Helsant the monk and the sect seems more apt; if they show him the way to the Rocks and inside is the store of knowledge, then maybe he can actually figure out the name of the ancient language?
Though that will pretty much spoil it for all who expect a final showdown at the end(including me). No one could really stand in his way if he knows The Name, even Galbatoix, with all his arrogance would know that.
In Eldest, Eragon asked Oromis about Brom’s history. He tells Eragon that Brom’s parents are from Kuasta. Eragon did not know it yet, but they would be his grandparents. It may not be coincidence that they are from the same place. Eragon may have family in the sect. He may discover something about his family in the book and go there in search of answers. If he has family in the sect, they may help him find the Rock of Kuthian.
If I remember right, when Eragon went back to Du Weldenrvarden for a fleeting visit, Oromis says Eragon can ask him any question. Eragon decides to ask about spirits. Could this be related?
Could be.. though he was immediately warned off…
I think maybe that was closure of the spirits topic or a mere build up of the last scene when they killed the new Shade.
I would just like to point out how awesome it is that Eragon killed the new Shade so easily, it shows he’s obviously becoming much stronger. :D
You know i think that Angela and Tenga are descendent of the grey folk and that in the fourth book the grey folk would be more explored
The ra’zac who died said that “Galbatorix is close to finding THE NAME”
He then had his skull crushed before he could elaborate :D
This means that galby will be the one with the name of ALL MAGIC at his disposal, right?
I was thinking the same thing either that or they are descendants of the gray people because the elves know Angela as well as the similarity with Rhunon and the other werecat.
But wait, who dragon will Saphira mate with? Because Thorn is evil and Shruikan is with Galby. And what if the green egg is a female dragon?
The Green egg is male, it says so in the books somewhere…
Belgarion, I don’t think that was ever revealed in the books – do you have an excerpt or a page number to support your argument? In any case, I don’t think there’s really an “if” there, because Paolini can decide what kind of gender the dragon will have and it’s a safe bet he’ll make it male so that Saphira will have someone to mate with. My guess is that Paolini will reveal the egg has already been secretly hatched, to avoid a huge age difference between Saphira and “Greenie”.
I don’t think that the age will matter in the long run. The dragons have been in their eggs for so long and although their interactions may be more or less immature, they will eventually grow out of that. Also if the green egg had hatched it would be to someone under Galbitorix’s control, therefore also evil. I would argue that the green egg is not going to hatch until near the end of the book. Also at this point Saphira really is only a few years old at that (because we don’t entirely how much time has passed).
Hmm, good point Mandy – but will that please the fans? I mean, the fact that they are “wise beyond their years” is a plausible excuse, but most people, myself included, still tend to look at the physical aspect when it comes to comparing age. The green dragon still needs to experience some life outside the egg shell, so having him hatch at the end of the book wouldn’t be convenient. As for hatching under Galbatorix’s control, we have to remember that that’s what most of the Varden is assuming. For all we know, someone could’ve escaped with the egg and made it hatch quite a while ago and Galbatorix obviously wouldn’t want to show this weakness. This still makes it possible for the egg to have had already hatched before Book IV.
That’s a valid argument and I could see Paolini going in that direction. I study literature for a living, and so I tend to pay attention to the minor foreshadowing and narrative devices used to grasp the idea where Paolini is coming from and where he is going. With that in mind I am not sure how worried he is about pleasing the fans on the green-dragon. I mean I am sure we would all love to see Arya ride the green-dragon. I am not sure where he is going to go with this. However, the way he has built Saphira’s mind, I would not be surprised to see him do a similar thing with the green-dragon. While the size is an interesting argument, I am not sure that will matter to Paolini in the end. It didn’t with Thorn or Saphira.
However, I do understand the argument about the dragon already hatching, but if that were the case I would have a feeling that the Varden would have at least heard some sort of whisperings of it. I mean it is really hard to hide a dragon.
Wow, it’s fascinating that you study literature for a living! I think size did matter to Paolini since Thorn’s growth was “magically” accelerated (albeit with the aftereffects of not having the experience to grow at a normal pace and whatever else it said in the book), which made him and Saphira almost at the same level. Since the green dragon is the last “free” and uninfluenced dragon left, I doubt that his growth would also be sped up using spells. I am actually leaning more and more towards your idea of the green dragon hatching at the end – it would allow Paolini to leave questions about Thorn’s size and experience in life unanswered and up to reader’s imagination. Although I wouldn’t approve of this approach, I can see how it would work.
Haha. I particularly study Biblical Narrative, but for one to understand Biblical Narrative one must also understand narrative as its own genre. I get to read novels for the sake of adding to the field of narrative literature. I have read/listened to the books over and over again to pick up all of those devices. I have a boatload of ideas of where Paolini will go. But part of being a good author is not allowing the readers to have any idea what is going to happen. Some of the ideas I have I truly hope don’t happen to lead me to better appreciate his writing.
One of the reasons I love to speculate it to be proved wrong.
Yes, I completely agree. Speculating and being proven right is only temporarily satisfying before you realize how preditable the novel or series is. This happens frequently with the cat series Warriors, where there are just too much clues to what happens next. Granted, that series is aimed at a younger audience, but it is still quite annoying.
With the Inheritance Cycle, I haven’t really registered at any forums or thought about any theories. I enjoy reading the books and thinking whether certain things from the three books are foreshadowing or not, but I don’t delve into speculation to try to be one step ahead of Paolini before the book is published. I also think that because, as with Harry Potter and other series, new characters and plotlines (like an army of werecats) are introduced in every book, it is hard to predict what will happen using only the information we have got from the past books. You’d have to predict creation itself, and there’s infinite possibilities there.
I don’t think that the green egg has hatched yet. You remember that Eragon had a dream about a boat leaving with two people on it and with two dragons circling above and someone shouting on the beach? I have three theories about that: 1- the two people on the boat are Eragon and Arya, the dragons flying overhead are Saphira and Greenie (whose rider is Arya) and the yeller is Roran. 2- two on the boat are Eragon and Roran, dragons are Saphira and Greenie (Roran being Greenie’s rider) the yeller is Murtagh. 3- two on boat are Eragon and Murtagh, dragons are Saphira and Thorn, yeller is, again Roran. Also, the person who will be Greenies rider could, in my opinion, be Roran, Arya, or Nasuada.
Very true. The issue I had with Harry Potter (and don’t get me wrong it is a great series) was that is was a little too predictable for me. But that has to do with the a paper I wrote about Rowling basing the entire series (specifically the 7th Book) on the story of Jesus. Being a Biblical Narrative person it was too obvious to miss. Later she came out and agreed that it was the reason for her writing. Although Rowling did have me stumped at some points about what was going to happen next, she did introduce almost every key character from the last book in prior books so no one was entirely new. That was a genius idea, but by creating a character earlier in the series it made it difficult for her to change the direction she was intending to head.
Paolini has not done that thus far. Every turn we are introduced to someone new. Some of these people have bigger roles later on in the series, but other dissolve away just as quickly as they appeared. I appreciate his writing style in that sense.
Mandy: Really? Could you point me to some articles or give your own thoughts on the allusions between Harry Potter and the Bible? As for introducing characters in previous books, you’re right, it was genius – I don’t think she had a problem with the direction she was heading, seeing as she planned out the whole series beforehand and was therefore able to confidently insert major characters in books that didn’t immediately require their action. I doubt she seriously regretted anything she wrote in the past books that limited her from changing the plot – which can still remain flexible despite the characters, as we saw with the death of Lupin and Tonks and Arthur who was spared from a death in the fifth book.
Alan: Those are all probable theories, although I would rather prefer Arya become a Dragon Rider than Roran (he’s more suited to the King position, although I don’t think Paolini is heading that way). What are your thoughts on why the green dragon egg has not hatched yet? Too improbable?
Yes, I would prefer Arya being the Rider too, but it could be anyone. And the idea that the last egg has hatched is very improbable because word of it would have leaked out, or Galb would have done the same thing he did to Thorn, accelerating its growth and sending it against Eragon, so that two bad Riders would be on the field instead of just Murtagh and Thorn.
I just realized something! If Arya becomes Rider to Greenie and, if it is a male and he and Saphira mate, wouldn’t that make Arya begin to have feelings for Eragon? In the book when the sorceress is flirting with Eragon, Saphira tells Eragon she will be influenced by his feelings for someone, and vice-versa. So, if Saphira and Greenie become mates, that could influence Eragon and Arya’s feelings for each other!
Aha! Good point; that would work out perfectly for Eragon/Arya shippers. I think that’s what Paolini might have in mind all along – Arya already has some level of affection for Eragon, and this would just be intensified with the union of their dragons.
I think that it is a very obvious option to go with Arya being the green dragon’s Rider. It wouldn’t be a bad thing but I would prefer if it was someone completely unexpected or possibly someone not introduced yet.
Someone not introduced yet is exactly what I wouldn’t want, though. This new Rider has to be someone we know fairly well, someone we already love, hate, respect, or admire. Paolini had three books to introduce the potential fourth rider, so there shouldn’t be any last minute characters stepping in to take the Rider’s place.
I think that it would be possible for the green egg to be hatched already and to have gone unnoticed. It could have been stolen and taken east and Galbatorix would not have necessarily known if it was hatched or not. It could also have been taken by someone who was not with the Varden or Galbatorix and who would not have wanted either of them to know about it being hatched. There are so many possibilities that it’s impossible to say though.
I do see what you mean about how it would be a little annoying to have a new person come in and “steal their thunder” but I wouldn’t mind it being someone unpredictable
Exactly my thoughts on the green egg. It just wouldn’t seem smart from Paolini’s part if he really did make Greenie hatch only in Book IV, giving him only 600+ pages to grow, get to know Saphira, and participate in the final battle. It makes sense that Paolini would want to get the “growing up” part out of the way when reader’s are first introduced to the green dragon. Mandy, you mentioned that the Varden would “at least have heard some sort of whisperings about” the egg if it really had been stolen, but remember, not a lot of people in the Varden know that another unhatched dragon actually exist, and even less people in all of Alagaesia are aware that dragons exist.
And hey, I’m all for the new Rider being someone unpredictable; but someone we have never heard of before? A new character who is supposed to step into a major role wouldn’t do the final book justice.
I guess so, yeah. If it had already hatched, however, I think that we would know about it already if it was Arya, Roran or Nasuada.
There’s always the sneaky Angela though or the notorious Elva. And when did we last see Arya in Brisingr? Wasn’t she missing for the last quarter of the book?
Actually I suppose so. Although I don’t really think that would be a huge difference in the time gap. The dragon would still not have that long to grow. I suppose we should just trust Christopher Paolini to come up with the answers to that one. lol
No, Arya was in the battle of Feinster, and she helped kill the new Shade with Eragon, and was also there when Eragon saw Oromis and Glaedr die. She was there till the end.
Ah, thanks for reminding me Alan. So I guess that takes Arya out of the equation of secretly bringing up the green dragon.
I have now started to think that Katrina could be the next rider, and that is the reason Roran is crying on the beach as she has to leave……?
Alan: I like your ideas, but we have to remember that one of the people on the boat is female, and I think we can safely assume the second one is Eragon.
He is correct. It is mentioned a few times that Saphira is the last female dragon in existence, and that is why Galbatorix wanted Murtagh to capture Eragon and Saphira and not kill them in the first show off.
Sorry about the above post. I posted it in the wrong place.
Also, in a Q&A, Paolini said that the next Rider would be someone who has been in all of the previous three books.
Actually, yes it was revealed. It was revealed on page 649 of Book 2 (Eldest), when Murtagh tells Eragon that he is to be captured, not killed. He states his reason as being that Saphira is the last female dragon in existence and that she will be the mother to a whole new race of Dragon Riders.
Whoever this new rider is going to be…. remember in the third book that Oromis told Eragon & Saphira that they would train the next rider and dragon if there was going to be one….
It IS male if Galbatorix knows anything about dragons.
Read Eldest Page 649 (Hardback Eddition)
Anybody ask the question why Brom’s dragon has the same name as his son’s dragon. I’m pretty sure it has no importance though.
Bookie, I just want to let you know, it is revealed that the last dragona egg is male. When Eragon fights Murtagh on the Burning Plains, Murtagh tells Eragon that Galbatorix doesnt want him: he wants Saphira. He then went on to say that the last egg is male and that Galbatorix wants to use Saphira to be the mother of a new age of riders
At one point, Murtagh does say that the last egg is male, and that is why Galbitorix must capture Saphira, so that she can mate w/ one of the 2 dragons, it is b4 one of their 2 battles, i think the 1 in Eldest though.
in the end of eldest, murtagh says “the last dragon egg in existance is male”
What u think about the nomad girl wich Eragon blessed in Brisingr? Maybe she’s the next rider?
Alan, if you’re basing your theory that Roran will be the next rider entirely on the fact that he’s related to Eragon, you have to remember that both Eragon and Murtagh were the sons of Riders. Also that the three remaining riders are human, but somewhere it said that Riders were more commonly elves. That leads me to believe that the last rider will be an elf, and the only elf we’ve known in all three books has been Arya. I think that’s a little too predictable though. Also, if Arya were meant to be a Rider, why didn’t Saphira choose her instead of Eragon?
I apologize if any names are miss spelled, but I don’t have my books with me they are at my mom’s house because she wanted to read them. It was already revealed in Brinsingr that Saphira is the only female left. Galbatorix instructed Thorn and Martaugh to try to bring them in alive because he didn’t want to end the dragon species. I also am remembering that either in the movie or the book, didn’t Brom state the a rider can live on after their dragon is killed, but a dragon dies when their rider is killed?
The green dragon is male, because I’m pretty sure murtagh tells eragon that Saphira is the only female dragon left, so they need her to recreate the dragon race. That’s why Galbatorix won’t kill them.
I personally believe that Nasuada will be the green rider. I really want Arya to be the rider, but if you think about it, she’s already immortal, so she and eragon can (hopefully) live together forever.
If roran were the rider, he’d lose Katrina, because she was still mortal and would eventually die. That would just SUCK for roran. I’ve always thought Murtagh and Nasuada would end up together, and since he’s a rider, who lives forever and stuff, it would make sense for her to become a rider so she can live forever as well! Plus, she’s the leader of the Varden, so that’s great for the Varden if their leder becomes the last rider!
It might seem somewhat fairytail-ish for them all to live ‘happily ever after’ together, but i think it makes some sense. And i don’t know why but i want Nasuada and Muurtagh to get together! Murtagh needs some loving too! haha
At the end of the second book, when Murtaugh mentions that he must capture Eragon and Saphira alive, because the last dragons are all males…just to point out where it shows that the last egg is male.
Bookie: This is just in case no one has posted it yet. If it has already been posted, sorry. This is about the Green egg, by the way.
Excerpt from Eldest (P.S.: my book is the combined version of Eldest and Eragon) pg 1167.
” “Of course not. Galbatorix wants you alive.”
“What for?”
Murtagh’s lips quirked. “You don’t know? Ha! There’s a fine jest. It’s not because of you; it’s because of her.” He jabbed a finer at Saphira. “The dragon inside Galbatorix’s last egg, the last dragon egg in the world, is male. Saphira is the only female dragon in existance.”
Just as a side note, it was hinted in the first book that Nasuada and Murtagh were begining to like eachother…and then in Brisingr Nasuada says”I want a great many things, but I doubt I shall receive many of them” speaking of whether its possible to capture Murtagh
You know what? Perhaps Greeni has hatched but managed to escape an go unnoticed. He could be hiding in the spine because that could be why Galby lost half his army there. Or maybe in the spine there could be some new creature that helps eragon. I hope CP elaborates into the Spine mystery a bit
Just thought I would clear this up… the green egg is a male Page 649 in Eldest. Murtagh explains that is why he is to bring Eragon and Saphira back alive, because “the lasst dragon egg in the world, is male.” Then he continues on about how Gabatorix wants to breed Saphira.
I think Tenga and/or Angela will have something to do with the Rock of Kuthian where Eragon will speak his own name to open the vault containing Eldunarya, which are in the rocks in the middle of the desert called Du Fells Nangoroth because as he is flying past on his way back to the varden at the end of book three he promises Saphira he will go there with her. Since the two people on the boat at the end are male and female I would think Arya is the next rider. Saphira did not hatch for her because it was not meant to be her dragon, where as everything points to the fact that Saphira was meant to be Eragon’s from his name to that fact that she would only settle for one name for herself, the name of his father’s dragon. then you also must realize that the mistake of Eragon finding Saphira is too much coincidental. So I think the dragons will only hatch for those they are fated to. I also agree with Mandy that the green egg probably wont hatch in time to fight the final battle but I do not think that will be the end of the book either. I think there will be a lord of the rings type ending where they tie up any loose ends before leaving on the boat to go look for more dragons. I think the person on the beach screaming will be Murtagh. I think his dragon will be killed and he will go crazy.
Didn’t Murtagh tell Eragon that Saphira was the last female dragon in all of Alagaesia and didn’t King Hrothgar tell Eragon that the Riders were doomed.
Omg, I think you’re totally right! If I recall correctly, Murtagh told Eragon during the battle at the end of Eldest that Galbatorix has already determined the gender of the last dragon egg. As for what Hrothgar said, I remember that as well, but I think it explained right after that what he meant was: that even if Saphira mates with a male dragon, the legendary race of Dragon Riders wouldn’t be reestablished, that it would only be a few and in the end they would die out.
None of these things truly bother me; I mean, the first quote just supports the evidence that Saphira will mate with the green dragon, and the second quote would be obvious even without Hrothgar’s words – fans can’t expect the ending to the series to be a full-fledged rebirth of Dragon Riders which once again rule Alagaesia peacefully.
It’d be a shame if that were not the ending, but I don’t really see that it could possibly be the ending either… As for the gender of the green dragon, wern’t we having a little chat earlier when you doubted me, Bookie, when I posted that the green dragon was already stated as male?
I don’t see how they could be reborn either. Unless the Rock of Kuthian contains a lot of dragon eggs or something like that.
WOW! Nice thought! Imagine if Eragon wins just by having hundreds of new Dragon riders on his side. Galbatorix would struggle to hold off so many new dragons and Riders…
It would be good if that happened I think but I can’t see it happening. I think there will be an epic battle between Galbatorix and Eragon and Murtagh will be there too with one or the other of them. Perhaps fighting over the green egg if it hasn’t already been hatched…
Belgarion: Hmm, I’ve looked through the comments and you’re right, Belgarion, we did have a little chat about that. My apologies! Fortunately the evidence was provided by Tim16, so now we can all relax and agree with each other on the gender of the green dragon. :)
Conor: I didn’t mean reborn in a literal sense there – what I meant was what Hrothgar meant was that there would never once again be a whole army of Dragon Riders again, and that that era is long gone. That’s not to say that Saphira can’t mate with anyone or have a dragon egg, it just means that there would only be a few Dragon Riders at most.
That’s why I think it’s really improbable that Eragon would ever win “just by having hundreds of new Dragon Riders”. That would make the green egg everyone’s been obsessing about quite insignificant if Eragon could just grab a pile of them from the Rock of Kuthian. No, I think the Rock either contains Eldunarya or something we haven’t previously heard about.
I didn’t mean reborn in the literal sense either. I meant the dragon population growing to the size that it was. I see what you mean about making the green egg insignificant but it could be that Eragon goes there after the final battle with Galbatorix or something and starts off a new dragon age.
Eragon will be leaving Alagaesia with Saphira, the last female dragon, so that totally debunks the Another-Dragon-Age theory. However much I wish it wouldn’t be so but I think Murtagh and Thorn would fall in battle AND Glabatorix would obviously also come to an end with blameless Shruikan. So the two dragons in Eragon’s dream would be Saphira and the green dragon, leaving Alagaesia forever in search of a land where dragons must still exist. Hence no dragons in Alagaesia anymore..
i think, as i believe i said before, the Rock of Kuthian could be something left behind by the mysterious Grey Folk. i dont think the only part they will play in the series is Oromis telling Eragon how they tamed magic, then died off.
I don’t think that Eragon and Saphira leaving means no more dragons. It could be that Saphira mates with Greenie and the egg ends up being female then they give the egg to the new king or the elves before leaving.
Sadly, I think the dragons might die out. You have to realize that when Greenie does hatch (and I don’t think he has yet), Eragon and Saphira will have to train the new Rider and dragon. Even if the next Rider is Arya and Eragon only has to train her a little, Saphira will be Greenie’s mentor. We all know what happened between Saphira and Glaedr, but that might have only happened because she is the last female dragon. I don’t think it would matter to dragons, but it is mentioned that the green dragon is Saphira’s nest mate, making them siblings. But as Saphira already knows this, I don’t think it will matter, just an interesting fact that may come into play. I think that there is another dragon egg still out there, somewhere in the world. It might be an unhatched egg that was long since forgotten about.
Cayla, there is most likely more than one dragon somewere else in the world, and I doubt it’s just an egg.
Let me rephrase myself. When I say somewhere in the world, I mean in Alagaesia. For all we know, there could be hundreds of dragons overseas, but in Alagaesia, there isn’t likely to be any, unless they are being hidden by an entire race.
Maybe the green dragon will hatch for Galbatorix and Shruikan will turn against him.
Galbatorix would known if the green egg was hatched: he is not damn enought to think he just lost it ( he can search it mith magic)
This is a little off topic but don’t forget what the Ra’zac said “he has almossst found the name” and Eragon asked who has and the Ra’zac said Galbatorix has almost found the true name we don’t know whose true name it is but if it’s Eragon’s true name he will be forced to try and change it and what if Murtagh follows Eragon’s advice and is able to change his name at the end of Book 4 and helps Eragon defeat Galbatorix? That would be a really surprising ending.
If that was to happen, Murtagh and Thorn wouldn’t be under his spell sadly, though I wouldn’t really want to see Saphira mate with Thorn! I’m just praying the green dragon is a male…
Hmm, I doubt that Saphira would want to mate with Thorn (who I believe she describes as a “child” in Eldest/Brisingr) even if he and Murtagh were free of Galbatorix’s control.
I’m still not sure about my theories on whose name Galbatorix is looking for. Yes, it’s likely that he’s looking for Eragon’s true name, but somehow I’m thinking he’s looking for the true name of something else. -shrugs- Ah well, we’ll find out soon enough.
I personally think that the name Galbatorix is looking for is the true name of magic, thus giving him complete control over magic… also in Book 3 the hermit Tenga said he was looking for the name, he also taught the herbalist Angela and she seems to be powerful but in a different way. I think the Vault of Souls will give Eragon a weapon to fight the Empire, maybe a spell to set all the enslaved dragon souls free, which would make the last battle evenly matched. Or, the Vault of Souls is where the dead are kept and Eragon brings back the fallen Rider or dragon whose souls still remain in the possession of the king.
I’m hoping he isn’t trying to get Eragon’s true name because if he did, it will kill Eragon to be like Murtagh because he hates having to kill people even though he does anyways, it would just kill him to serve Galbatorix but I have a gut feeling it is.
Eragon got a new weapon towards the end of Brisingr (which is a badass weapon if I say so myself) and also, he wouldn’t want to enslave anything and what I think will happen is he will do what Brom told him to do: just look for Galbatorix’s weakness and hit him there; his weakness is the Eldunarya, which is also his strength. If the werecats are able to steal some of the Eldunarya and give them to Eragon, Galbatorix’s power will drop and Eragon’s power will ride, but it would also make it a battle of “who has more batteries” which was stated in a previous comment. I’m just hoping the new Rider is Arya and the egg hatches after Galbatorix is killed.
i agree with steve. the true name of magic would indeed give Galbatorix full control over magic, which would set him up for, in all likeleyhood, all eternity as king.
FINALLY! And I thought I was the only one who remembered the true name of magic.
That’s mean. I love Thorn. He is sick. But I really have no problem with Eragon other than to avenge Hrothgar.
Yes, I believe Galbatorix is working to find the true name of the Ancient Language. At first I suspected that the Ra’Zac meant Eragon’s true name, but after some thought, I decided not. Oromis said that he may be able to guess at Eragon’s name, and I doubt Galbatorix could figure it out without having ever met Eragon, while Oromis could only venture a guess (though he chose not to.)
Furthermore, why would the Ra’Zac say “the name” if it was just Eragon’s name? If it was Eragon’s name, they would have said “your name,” most certainly.
Based on this assumption, I think part of the plot line will be a race to find out the true name of the language, or to stop the other from finding it. There was another commenter, in another comment, pointing out the sect called the Arcaena in Kuasta who strive to gather all knowledge they can in order to prepare for some unseen disaster or catastrophe. I doubt they have the actual name, but they know where or how to find it. Since, as a commenter elsewhere reminded us, Brom was from Kuasta, it is possible that Eragon’s possible relation to this sect, and his station within Alagaesia, will enable him get this knowledge. I suspect they will direct him to the Vault of Souls, or the Rock of Kuthian, rather, and inside will be many things, ONE of which will be the name of the language, or a clue to the name.
This is starting to be a really long comment, but a friend of mine, in a conversation, came up with a possibility. What if Eragon finds the eldunari of the king of the dragons from ages long past? The one who had no name? He would most assuredly have a wealth of knowledge, and I would guarantee that the energy and power within would be extremely vast and powerful. Of course, there could be other things in the vault as well.
Actually I must thank you for posting this Bookie. Also I believe that Arya will be the new Rider, as was stated above. That Lord Bradburn is either someone insignificant or someone with a small role like the elf who has Tamerlein in possession. Still, I must admit that I wasn’t expecting a whole race of werecats. Maybe the new king helps Eragon find the Vault of Souls. Also, even though Galbatorix is mentioned, Murtagh is not. Maybe Eragon is exhausted trying to kill him? And besides the Eldunarya, don’t forget Oromis’ sword. He said he had put enough strength to move mountains. Still, this chapter is nice. Not to mention, it’s cool that werecats can control ordinary cats. Can’t wait till I read Galbatorix’s end.
hmm this is kind of stupid but wut if angelica i think that is her name i havnt read the books in to long but what if she is eragon 1 or his dragon
Lol Bookie I just want to thank you for going through my comment and fixing all my grammar errors. I don’t tend to use periods/commas/all that other stuff unless I’m writing an email or a paper for my classes.
Haha, no problem. I only correct some comments to make it easier for other readers to read through them and join in the discussion. Although the comments belong to the people who wrote them, they are part of my blog and represent it just as much as my posts; therefore I have to take care of the comments as much as I take care of my own writing. Rest assured that I do not change the wording of comments around (unless the meaning isn’t clear) and mostly just fix the minor spelling and whatnot.
I would, of course, appreciate it if you did take care to watch your spelling and capitalization from now on! :) Saves me some time, it does!
Haha, okay I’ll try and it does make the comments look better.
Sorry I meant SummerOfEragon not Novaah
What of Elva? She already has the mark of a Dragon Rider. I think she will become the new Rider, or if not, the Rider of the egg that Saphira and Greenie (possibly) sire. I would personally like to see Arya or Angela as the Rider of Greenie as well. :) And as for the ‘name’ the the Ra’zac mentioned, if you remember correctly, Oromis mentioned something about ‘whoever found the true name of the Ancient Language would be the Master of everyone who used it’ or something like that. I think that that may be the name that Galby is looking for and almost has.
Or I could be completely wrong. :) Thoughts, Bookie?
Yes, the fact that the name might be the true name of the ancient language is certainly a possibility; Steve has already taken the liberty of discussing it here if you’re interested. It would make sense that Galby would be looking to seize control of the entire language (thus controlling all who use magic) rather than any single Rider like Eragon.
Wait, what if the true name of the Ancient Language is “cheep-cheep”? I know it’s a little dumb, but think about it.
Jacob: Really, I strongly feel that “cheep cheep” cannot be the name of the Ancient Language. It was probably Angela’s way of teasing the werecat king. If anything, “cheep cheep” isn’t a word in any language, it doesn’t match the type of words used in the Ancient Language… It’s just a sound, probably a bird’s chirp.
Hey, you never know,cheep-cheep could be Half-Paw’s nickname (or even his true name, but I highly doubt that). I was also thinking that maybe the Werecats hate Angela because she stole something from them, like how she has the weapon from the Dwarves.
Although it would be interesting to have Elva as the dragon rider, I don’t think that will be the case. She is too young to be. If the dream of the two people was obviously a man and woman, it couldn’t be Elva. Elva has grown at an exraordinary rate but only because she had to, to deal with the curse/blessing Eragon gave her. Now that he fixed that, she will now grow into an adult at that same pace.
I’m really not sure who the new rider will be. I hope it is Arya but that is a little predictable. But both the new riders are human. I think the new rider should be an elf since they were the first race to establish a bond with the dragons.
As for the name, I also don’t think it is the true name of the Ancient Language. It would give Galby to much of an advantage over Eragon and make defeat of the Varden too easy. The name he is finding may be Eragons true name but again that would make it too easy to control him and win. I also don’t think Galby understands Eragon enough to find his true name. Like what Eragon did with Sloan? I don’t think Galby would understand Eragon’s way of thinking. So thats a very long way to say I don’t know what true name Galby is close to finding. haha
Novaah: it doesnt say he WILL find it; only that he is CLOSE to finding it. If i was Galby i would go for the big thing (the true name of the ancient language) not the smaller one (Eragon’s true name)
Sorry meant SummerOf Eragon not Novahh
Remember what the armorer in the Varden’s armory says to Eragon while he tries to find a new sword: that Galbatorix will be killed by a sword through the heart. I think that Paolini would not make a prediction like that if he did not intend to bring it to fruition. However, I do not think that there will be a dramatic duel; that would be too obvious. I think that Thorn will be killed when Murtagh tries to attack Galbatorix, and then he and Eragon will free Shruikan and Murtagh will kill Galbatorix on Shruikan. If anybody has read The Beggar Queen, it is like the death of Cabbarus, where he is murdered by the important employee whom he betrayed, Skeit. I think that anything else would be anticipated.
As for the Rock of Kuthian, Brom is from Kuasta. Might this not have anything to do with the Rock of Kuthian? Or maybe it is the stone at which the Varden let Eragon in–because he is instructed to shout his name to the Vault of Souls and to do the same at the entrance to the Varden?
Ahh, that is a really nice theory, about Elva becoming a Dragon Rider later rather than bonding with Greenie. However, I think that for the purposes of the story, Elva still has to play some sort of major role in the fourth book, and if that’s not being a Rider, then it’s something else, most likely using her talent to read minds. I also like your quote about killing Galbatorix with a sword, or by some other physical means. I can definitely see Paolini going into that direction – rather than using magic to kill Galbatorix, it will be pure physical talent and skill. A bit cheesy, but no less than the magic alternative. :)
maby Elva will be there with Eragon when he fights Galby, b/c the key to winning a magic duel is to act a step ahead of your opponent. so if she can read minds… well, you get the picture. but the problem for Eragon would be to convince her to be there.
and the theory of Greenie already having a rider. where was Elva after Eragon lifted the curse? maby she used her powers to get into Galby’s castle and take the egg, and since she is marked by a dragon, it hatched for her, and she has been raising it since. Thoughts Bookie?
Elva in my view will not become a Rider. Remember guys, Elva has the power the exploit the people and that is anyone around her. If she becomes a Rider, she might turn out to be like Galby or maybe a worse tyrant. So there’s a very low chance of her actually becoming a Rider. As for us all wanting Greeni to be somewhat grown up by the end of the book, there’s always a “ten or twenty years later….” available. :D
I think Galby will be killed in the way that Brom or Oromis (can’t remember which) said. No matter how many wards that are placed arround him, he will forget one thing, and if Eragon finds it, which I think he will, it will defeat Galby. Somehow I think it will be a very simple spell that will lead to Galby’s doom.
i think the spell that will kill galby is brisiger, or however you say it, because this thats the first magic word he used and the true name of the sword he gets, he will make his sword go ablaze, then stab galby through the heart, and i remember that the sword master in elessmeria told eragon that the riders swords can go through almost any barrier or word, sorry about the grammer and spelling mistacks, what are your thoughts bookie
i also think as cody said, that he will kill galby with the spell brisinger and i also think that that may be in his true name. his tru name could not be just brisinger because that is said to much in the books. however eragon seems kind of drawn to brisinger in my opinion so it kind of makes sense.
I just remembered…Didn’t Oromis say taht the spell to move stuff around “ahs many uses” and “I’m sure it will prove useful”?I, for one , bet that eragon will use it at an important moment in the plot…maybe he will teleport a sword inside GalBy?bet he’s not prepared for that ; D It goes with the theme of “using-signature-moves-to-kill-the-bad-guy”, like the way he used brisingr(which wasn’t really needed, he coulda just stabbed) on Zar’roc when he killed Durza. Also, it’s kind of a finisher, like the story ends the same way it began-with something moving in space.
Now remember guys, CP himself said that throughout all three books he has been hinting small clues about who is going to be the next rider Personally I think that would be Arya because of the green magic hinting and such. The problem with this is that CP also said that the rider may come as a surprise to people. But I really hope it’s not Roran because of the whole Katrina thing. Also I don’t think it’s Elva because I just think she doesn’t fit the description. Also I think there is going to be a twist such as Eragon maybe finding the first Eragon and his dragon somewhere in the Spine because I think that topic will be elaborated in this book. ( and that would be pretty cool)
Eragon will probably try to save the green dragon egg. Greenie will hatch for Arya. That is because her magic is green and will help Eragon to be with her. She is already experienced in war and she knows the ancient language. Eragon will teach her some things and Saphira will train the new dragon. So the new dragon will fall in love with Saphira intensifying her feelings for Eragon. And maybe protecting Arya will give Eragon enough will and power to kill Galbatorix just like Brom killed Morzan because he knew Selena was in danger. But somewhere in the book Eragon will have to lose all hope to find the vault of souls. Maybethe Varden lose a battle. PS Thanks for editing my last message Bookie but I was never good at putting commas.
Hopefully, it won’t be exactly the way it went down with Brom and Morzan. Selene was dead before Morzan was killed.
Perhaps Saphira will die–thus leaving Eragon with no hope and forcing him to go to the vault…it’s not like Saphira has to live.
“Her magic is green”
That is, like, suuuuch a valid point.
Novaah, didnt he mention that in Eldest? If you are correct then i wonder what Paolini will do to try and even out the odd’s for Eragon, and Personally i would rather see Eragon struggle to defeat Galbatorix then serve under him. If looking for the true name of the ancient language it would make the book more interesting and it would be a big twist.
Another thing i am wondering about is if Murtagh took Oromis’s sword. The gem in it has alot of power just like Brom’s ring. If he does take the sword he will possibly try and use it against Eragon in there next battle.
you know i would be mad if they reveld the true name, and didn’t show it in the book, it was like a blank or something, because it was to powerful like on south park, how muhamad cant be seen on t.v. lol
I reckon the true name could actualy refer to the green dragon egg; maybe he needs a true name in order to force it to hatch? As for the sword… I think the Elves would manage to save it from Murtagh. Remember that Galbatorix said he’d take Glaedr’s Eldunari, Murtagh will be concentrating on finding an Eldunari instead of Oromis’ sword.
Having the true name of magic seems a little too far to go; if Galbatorix has the true name of magic, it’d be the end of the book, game over. Eragon would loose.
well no one is saying he will find it. it’s just, that would be Galby’s longterm goal, b/c he thinks whenever Eragon comes to his doorstep, he will crush him. that would leave his path clear. but i think Eragon will have something immensley strong too, a “secret weapon”. that will surprise Galby, leading to his downfall.
But maybe, just maybe Galby would find the name of the Ancient Language and try to use it but he could die because he does not have the power to control the name.
I don’t think he could force an egg to hatch. CP wouldn’t do it because it would raise too many complications. Without a Rider, the dragon would be wild. And if there’s one thing Alagaesia doesn’t need, it’s a wild dragon. I don’t even think Galby fully comprehends the power of a wild dragon.
dude I totally agree with you
Okay so somewhere in Book 3, it mentions something about Galbo going into seclusion and 20 years later comes out with something and then he went back into seclusion? Anybody remember this, and does anybody have any theories?
When I read the Ra’zak part about the true name, i thought it would be one of the gods (maybe Guntera?) although it might be the ancient language as well.
what if eragon and galby both find it
actually JiDDUNg, if he found the True Name of the Acient Language, he would be able to control it no matter what. As long as you have somethings True Name, you control it completley.
It just came to me and this could be a big possibility. Anyone ever thought about why Eragon and Ssaphira would leave Alasgaesia? Remember Eragon while trying to find brightsteel under the roots of the Meona Tree ends up promosing her something yet unknown. Maybe she wants them gone as she no more trusts the dragon riders to decide the fate of Alesgaesia after Galby (assuming that he has been defeated by then) so maybe expels all the Dragon Riders and they can’t enter Alageasia again. Just a thought, would like your comments on it.
I don’t think the Menoa tree really has that much interest in anything except the wellness of the plants she cares for. She was just barely roused during the Blood-Oath ceremony.
Well, when he promises the Menoa tree something, it says he feels a slight twinge of discomfort in his lower belly… maybe the Menoa tree took something key from him then, and that will end up being something important later on.. I don’t know.
Am I terribly insidious and paranoid, or did the Menoa Tree steal Eragon’s SEED when she asked for “something”?
I mean, he felt a twinge in his LOWER belly…and we all know what men have there, right?
Plus it makes sense that since she “has never seen anything like him before” she might want to…well…preserve him :)
YoursTruly: i think that the menoa tree took his “seed” as well. i was actually wondering why no one else had brought that up, although i don’t really see why it would be important even if she did
Talha that is a good idea and it was all ready mentioned. I have a feeling that the wild magic Arya was talking about like the golden lilys and the dragon ship and as for Galby getting Eragon’s true name the book says that Arya couldn’t divined true name.
I just thought of something when I was reading he said controls cats. Doesn’t that include leopards and tigers and others in the cat family.
I believe he meant he controls his race (the werecats) and house cats. We haven’t seen if leopards or tigers even exist in Alagaesia or have any idea of whether it would even make a difference.
I think that big cats do exist in Alageasia because of Blohdgarm. He has features that are like predatory cats so he must have seen the real thing to have had the inspiration to include it in his appearance.
I don’t think the wild cats are included in that control. And it didn’t say necessarily control. House cats do what the werecats do or tell them to do because they envy the werecats. I think big cats are too ruled by their instincts.
No, housecats are in awe of werecats, and I don’t think a tiger would be in awe of them.
He says he controls ALL of the one forms, so that would include the big cats.
I agree with all of them. I may be wrong, but I think that Galbatorix got Greenie to hatch for him, and Greenie escaped that way, although Greenie wouldn’t have a Rider.
This would solve the age problem.
Hey you guys, about the Rock of Kuthian: Eragon has asked humans, elves, and Dragon Riders. The only people he didn’t ask about it to is the dwarves; seriously the Rock of Kuthian. I mean, come on, which race is obsessed with stones, metals, or rocks. So I think the dwarves have or know were the Rock of Kuthian is.
True. It’s will be like something is in front of his eyes and he is not seeing it. Except the dwarves, only the werecats are left.. but he already got the name of the Rocks or whatever they are from a werecat so I doubt they will tell anymore… So yeah, the best bet is dwarves..
Personally I don’t think Elva will become a Rider from what it looked like after Eragon tried to remove his curse on her she acted is if she was corrupted and about the Monoa tree telling Eragon to leave that is a good possibility.
I would like it if Eragon found the first Eragon’s and his dragon in the Vault of Souls and CP never said what happened to the first Eragon he still might be alive and it would add a good twist to book.
Yes, that will be some twist but the whole ‘Hero factor; would be destroyed; I mean if Eragon found the Elf-Eragon then Elf-Eragon will be the one finishing off Galbatorix (It could be possible that Eragon strikes the final blow but still…).
So it will be like the Elf-Eragon stealing our Eragon’s thunder. Not a good ending for a book I have loved for more than 6 years. Somehow I feel it would be a place where Eragon would enhance his powers or diminish Galby’s.
Though I would love to see Elf-Eragon reappear to hand out some advice. There is too less written about Eragon’s namesake in the books.. :)
Yeah I think same but how wicked would it be if Elf-Eragon’s dragon gave our Eragon his heart of hearts; our Eragon would have over a thousand years of magic, hell of a lot more years then Galby.
Oh that definitely would be amazing!! The Edulnari of the first Rider’s dragon, the one whose name can not be found, that would be something… Only if it is able to surpass the power provided by the hundreds of Edulnarya in Glabatorix’s possession, some of them only slightly younger than the nameless dragon of Elf-Eragon’s. God, what will I give to know all the answers right now. Hope Christopher Paolini will be finished with Book 4 soon.
I thought it said something about only 7 years worth of magic can be stored in an Eldunari? or something… Am i well off the track here? Anyway, I suppose finding the first Eragon’s dragon would be cool, but they could only give advice, like Oromis would have, because otherwise it’d tip the balance too much in Eragon’s favour, I would expect.
No, actually in Brisingr Oromis says that it takes 5 to 7 years for an Edulnari to reach the pinnacle of its power. Then I suppose it retains the power for its lifetime, unless it’s used. I don’t think bringing Elf-Eragon back would tip the odds in Eragon’s favour, as I have said before, it may tip the balance of the war but Eragon personally would be no longer the one who defeats Galbatorix. He would no longer be the Hero of the series. So maybe an image of Elf-Eragon could be summoned like the spirits of the dragons of the old during the blood-oath celebration and the dwarf god at the time of Orik’s coronation. And then the Spirit-Elf-Eragon would give the advice or the way to defeat Galby. I share the sentiments for Elf-Eragon’s return. It would definitely be cool.
It would be nice if Eragon somehow met with the spirit of Eragon 1 and Brom and Oromis again. But maybe the Vault of Souls contains the Eldunarya of ancient dragons and they help Eragon. And I was thinking that when Eragon fights with Galbatorix, he starts losing and maybe Saphira uses magic to kill Galbatorix… That would be nice. Die by a dragon when he has killed so many.
It would be awesome if Galbatorix died by a dragon but I think Eragon is gonna end up stabbing Galbatorix in the heart.
I agree with Hades knight, it would be funny if Galby died by a dragon but everyone knows Eragon is going to be the one to give the killing blow and I want book 4 to come out now :(
Er… probably there is the Elf-Eragon’s soul in the Vault of Souls and he will give Eragon er… something.
The last comment, Jiddung I have a feeling that you know something!!!!! C’mon tell us!
Hey is it possible that one of the child elves could become the next d-rider?>>?
Duma, no it’s not. In an interview, Christopher Paolini said that the new rider will have appeared in all three books, and I don’t recall the elf children being in Eragon.
OOOOoooooh. Just thought of something. I wonder what ever happened to Galbatorix’s first dragon’s Eldunari? Does Galbatorix have it? Perhaps this Eldunari is in the Vault of Souls… Eragon could give it to Galby as a trap, Galby’s first Dragon could be so disappointed in what Galby has become… Galby might … do something… out of…. well, he might JUST give Eragon a nicer chance to kill him ;) Would be a pretty interesting twist.
I’ve thought about this a lot. Galby would have tried to find his dragon’s Eldunari as soon as he learned of their existence. It is my belief that he does not have it because the whole reason he went mad was because of his dragon dying, and if he had his dragon’s Eldunari he would not be so evil. Also, it probably pushed him further into madness not finding it because he would have gotten his hopes up of having his dragon’s soul with him, and then had them crushed again just like when the Elders refused to give him another dragon.
I think that it is highly possible that either his dragon did not transfer itself into its Eldunari or it somehow ended up in the VoS and will be used against Galby when Eragon opens it. This would solve the problem of Eragon not being strong enough, because he would learn things from the Eldunari that no one knows about Galby except for himself and his original dragon, who had shared his mind and soul.
I have an idea about the Vault of Souls. I think it has every dragon and their Riders who has ever died souls in their and they transfer thier power into eragon until he kills Galbatorix then they will say something like “well done now we pass on knowing Alagaesia is safe again” and then Eragon retuns to normal.
I was reading the comments and I agree that Galbatorix is trying to find the true name of the ancient language or maybe he’s looking for the true name of death. If he found the true name of death that means he won’t ever die.
As a Dragon Rider, Galbatorix is already immortal. Having the true name of death, if that’s even possible, wouldn’t really protect him from physical injury or magical injury that might cause death.
Hey Bookie I think you’re right about the true name of death so I think it has to be the true name of the ancient language; also thanks for putting this chapter up its awesome.
My pleasure, Hades. Plus, it’s provoked some interesting debates here in which we can all participate and discuss our ideas! :)
Actually, being a Rider doesn’t automatically make you immortal. It can, but there is a chance you just live a long time.
Thought of taht first, haha.
Anyway, death: Deyja=die.End of discussion.
I was going through all the interviews with CP and he has stated that the next Rider would be someone in all 3 books. I don’t think Elva was a part of the first book and even if she was neither she, Nasauda or Roran played any important part in the first book. A strong feeling.. it has to be Arya.
Ah, well if that’s true, then certainly most of the evidence points to Arya. Could you give us the link of this particular interview?
Sorry, can’t do at the moment. Big electricity crisis here in Pakistan. Its ‘load shedding’ time for now meaning no electricity for the next hour. =( posting from my blackberry at the moment, will post the link as soon the the electricitys back.
CP said that the person would be in all three books, not that they had played an important role. Elva was in the first book, when Eragon first “blessed” her!
True. But don’t you think that even though Elva may speak like an adult, she isn’t really physically capable of being a Rider. Plus if she becomes a Rider, then it would only add to Eragon’s troubles. She cannot be trusted and is selfish. Sorry to say, but I kind of developed a strong dislike for Elva the moment she went skipping off after having her “blessing” altered…
If Paolini really said that in an interview then I think that he is only trying to suggest that the Rider will be Arya, otherwise he would be making it too obvious. My guess is that he is only building up for a twist with that remark. The biggest twist I can guess of would be the Pact being altered to include Dwarves, as it once was to include Humans. Orik would then be the prime suspect for the next Rider and the bitterness of the dwarves for being left out of the Pact would be gone, thereby drawing the three major races closer together to unite against Galbatorix.
Also I agree with previous comments, concerning the dwarve’s connection to the rock of Kuthian. Ultimately, I think the Vault of Souls will strip Galbatorix of the Eldunarya rather than give some to Eragon. Perhaps, with the Vault open, the Eldunarya under Galbatorix’s control can break away from him into the Vault.
Well, if Elva became a Rider, she could just make herself grow, couldn’t she? She said in Eldest that she couldn’t do what she needed as an infant, so she just grew.
NitumJ: I agree with you completely. I was merely pointing out that Elva was in the first book.
Dorian: I think the pact may be altered, but Orik wouldn’t be a Rider. He’s already king, and when he flew on Saphira, he didn’t like it at all.
Alan: CP simply hasn’t done enough character development in Elva’s case. And she would need lots of training. She may be adequate in the art of the blade, but she knows nothing about dragons.
There’s always a chance of one of Carvahall’s residents being the newest Rider.
I don’t think so. Carvahall already has one Rider, I don’t think they need another. Those people just want to go back to their homes, but they have to help beat the Empire first. I think we can all safely assume Arya will be the next Rider.
I surely wish that Arya is the next one. I don’t remember, but Eragon did dream sometime that two dragons are circling in the sky and a man and a woman are aboard the ship. That has to be Arya and Eragon. And I don’t suppose Saphira would be left alone since it has been mentioned numerous times how distraught Saphira feels about having no mate. So, the second dragon in the sky should be leaving Alagaesia with them and since no dragon would willingly part with his Rider, then it has to be Arya’s!
I agree with NitumJ about Murtagh and about the mountain.
Dorian: I don’t think a dwarf will be the new Rider for multiple reasons. One is that many dwarves still have grudges against dragons and they either hate or fear dragons. Also, I don’t think Eragon knows how to change the pact. Glaedr might know how to change the pact, but he will be terribly depressed for a long time, and if Eragon did somehow have the time and knowledge to change the pact, I don’t think it would be Orik, for a few reasons. One is that he is now the king. Also, he doesn’t like to fly.
I don’t think the Urgals know where the rock of Kuthian is. I think the dwarves either have or know where the rock of Kuthion is. If you want to know why I think that, read one of my earlier posts.
What about Jeod? He could find the way into Galby’s castle and find Greenie’s egg. He was in all the books, and he would also be unexpected.
It is possible that one of the villagers of Carvahall will be the next Rider. It says in the books that the inhabitants of Carvahall were the desendants of the king that led the humans to Alaegasia.
yea i think your right TalHa, but elva was in the first book, that was in the chapter bless the child agetlum, when the woman tells eargon the child has no parents, so he blesses her any thoughts, i would like to know if im wrong
It is my belief that Rock of Kuthian is the grave stone of the first Eragon and his dragon. I think that if he speaks his name to the Vault of Souls, he will bring back the original Eragon and his dragon. I think speaking his name will open it, because they share the same name. Also CP has not mentioned much at all about the original Eragon and his dragon. Nothing has been said about they’re death or what happened to them. I think it is no coincidence that they share the same name, and CP will use that later in the story. Interviews of CP have revealed that he has known the whole story line of Eragon since the begining, so I think he knew he would connect the original Eragon to the present day Eragon. I dont see CP finishing out the cycle with out connecting them in some way. Why else would he have named Eragon “Eragon”? Maybe the rock of Kuthian won’t be his grave, but where he still lives. Since no story has been told of his death, we can still speculate he never died. That is far less likely, but still something to think about.
Interesting, interesting… but I believe Solembum told Eragon “speak your true name”… or was that to the Vault of Souls? Either way, I don’t think that Eragon would say just his normal name, “Eragon”, to open the Vault of Souls or the Rock of Kuthian. I also think it’s possible that the history bit of Eragon’s name may be just that: history; and that Paolini doesn’t intend to flesh out this history or create a bigger role for it. I think that, at the point in time where this fact was revealed, it simply symbolized as if it was Eragon’s destiny to become a Dragon Rider after the original Eragon.
Solembum only said “speak your name” not “true name”, but that is true it would be awkward to only say “Eragon”.
Also it may just be history that his name is Eragon. I just hope that CP uses the original Eragon as a bigger part in the fourth book! I feel like it would be so cool to tie him in to all his, and it would make for a better story. The idea of the original rider and dragon coming back to aid him just intrigues me. It is also possible that CP left out the original Eragon’s history so he could come back to it in this book. Maybe I’m pushing for this theory, but it still a possibility!
Although I hate to admit it, I don’t think that Elf-Eragon is still alive, or at least his dragon isn’t. Brom said that dragons never stop growing. It would be impossible to hide a dragon of that size, and if you could, what would you do with the dung piles, how much food would it eat, and how would you get that much food?
That is why it is more likely that they are dead, and Eragon will bring them back through the Vault of Souls.
As I mentioned earlier somewhere… Elf-Eragon getting resurrected is not a possibility. Killing Galbatorix is something Eragon has to do himself; maybe a reflection of them could offer some advice… a great big secret that even Galby doesn’t know about. Like getting energy from pure elements or something. If Elf-Eragon comes back, then that would undermine Eragon’s role in the bringing of the new age.
It might be possible that the huge dragon could be in an eternal slumber, disguised as a mountain. This would explain why Oromis’s sword contains enough power to move mountains. Also, Eragon (1st) could be in the Vault of Souls, and he is what is needed to awaken the dragon.
i think it would be interesting if eragon’s true name was what he said in the first book to dursa when he was captured in gilied, something about killer of shadows or something
What if when eargon opens the vault of souls he finds the original eargons dragons heart of hearts
I think Eragon’s name is already connected. The person who saves Algaesia from chaos. Eragon(1) saved Algaesia from war among all the races. Eragon(2) will save Algaesia from chaos under Galbatorix’s rule.
I have an answer for you Cayla… THE SPINE! I think Adam is right with the sleeping dragon thing, and that would be the reason why only so few people could cross the spine, they’re riders. That means Eragon, Brom AND Roran! Which would have to mean Roran will be the next rider…
And than as said in another post “It would be unfair for Katrina if Roran were a rider” but another person said “Solebum’s prophecy to open the volt or what ever when all seems to be lost” (or what ever it said)would be a perfect time for Roran to be killed and to Eragon I guess that would seem that all was lost???
Just my theories…!
Why do you all talk about The rock of kuthian and the vault of souls as two separate places? Doesen’t Solembum say something like go to the rock of kuthian, where you will find the vault of souls and open it by saying your name or something?
If you ask me, the only reason for CP to name him “Eragon” was because that was the name of the first Rider, and the new Eragon is the first of the new generation of Riders…
im like 90% sure Arya is gonna be the green dragons rider it couldent be Roran for two reasons one it would take to long to teach him magic and second it would be cruel for
Roran to live forever long after Katrina died if he survived fighting galbitorix. it wouldent be elva because she might turn out to be even worse than Galbatorix because of her abilities. I really doubt that nasuda would be the next rider one because again it would take way to long to learn magic and if she died the varden would transcend into chaos. I dont think the egg has already hached because it woulb be impossible to keep it completly quiet rumers about it would be bound to spread after a year at most.I would be reallymad if like said in earlyier post someone new just came up and the egg hached for that person I mean you couldent trust that person for one thing. Also i’m kinda leaning tword the arya and eragons dragons getting together witch means that eragon and arya would proable get together i mean eragon loves her and arya already has some feelings tword eragon.
It won’t be some random new person, because CP said in an interview that it would be someone that was in all three previous books. I also think that it might be a bit awkward with Saphira being Greenie’s mentor…
correct me if im wrong, but what if gledar was greeni’s mentor, he could be taught from gledars heart of hearts
Cody, I think you’re on to something!
In the books, it says the “rock of Kuthian” not “Rock of Kuthian” implying that Kuthian is a person or place. And when Eragon asks Arya and Oromis about the rock of Kuthian they say that it rings a faint bell but they can’t recall where. So here is the theory: Kuthian was a dragon of the Forsworn whose name was Banished, and the rock of Kuthian is his Eldunari. Perhaps he repented and is willing to lead Eragon to Galby’s horde of Eldunarya.
P.S. Arya for next Dragon Rider! Eragon for Arya! Saphira for Greenie! Go CP!
Kuthian cannot be one of the Forsworn dragons, as his name is forbidden, it cannot be remembered, so Eragon wouldn’t be able to remember the name “Kuthian”… Nor would Solembum for that matter. That is the effect of the spell placed during the Banishment of Names.
Just had another idea about the roK and the VoS: Eragon must open the Vault “when all is lost”; I think we’ll face some sort of “negative climax” in which Roran/Arya/Saphira will die, and Eagon will open the VoS to bring back someone from the dead, just like in ancient Greek mythology…
Wow! Amazing theory! But, what if Kuthian is Elf-Eragon’s dragon, or even Galbatorix’s first dragon’s Eldunari, instead of one of the Forsworn! This theory has a lot of potential.
I think that Kuthian could be Galby’s first dragon. If their Eldunari is in the VoS, then it would put a big twist in the book because they would be so disappointed in Galby that they would want to help Eragon, and would know things about Galby that no one but he himself knows.
Galby’s first dragon was Jarnuvosk, Kuthian remains a mystery…
what if the rok is where galby keeps all of the heart of hearts he has fould over the past centurey, just a therory
Actually it is “Rock of Kuthian”
Eragon Page 206 bottom of page.
Nitum is right. Also, the bannishing of the names would make the forsworn dragons eldunarya useless. Remember, Arya telling Eragon that when the dragons lost their names, they lost their complete identity. That makes me think that the eldunarya of the forsworn dragons can’t be used. Before they died, they were only rideanimals for their riders.
Roran is the new Rider; remember when they say they have the same blood in Brisingr not to mention that Eragon tries to teach him magic and that Eragon says that if Roran should suceede in using magic, come and find Eragon or the Varden’s magicians.
I don’t think so, because it would take at least a year to train Roran as a Rider, and the book can’t span that long.
Plus, someone mentioned in an earlier chapter that Roran will be an unlikely candidate due to Katrina, who is a mortal. He is more likely candidate for the post of the King of Palancar Valley…
Personally, I thought that Roran’s failure to do magic emphasised that it would not be a big part of his life.
Remember in the first book, Eragon asks Brom how to become immortal, Brom said there was more than one way indirectly, many ways, none are available to you right now. Maybe Roran or Saphira or one of the elves make Roren’s wife immortal.
I don’t think Katrina would be happy being immortal. She would have to see her child die, and all of her descendants die. And she and Roran would outlive everyone that they know and love from Carvahall.
And if that is the case, remember how Eragon said that Arya is the best lifemate for him in a discussion with Roran before they attacked Helgrind, because he couldn’t take one wife after another since he is immortal…
If making his “wife” mortal doesn’t work as an option for Eragon, how is CP going to make it work for Roran? That would be like eating his own words. Plus all the points Cayla has made are very true; they can’t go around making everyone immortal.
In Eldest or Brisingr I believe that Eragon or Orimis tells some one that while you ca phisically keep someone from dying, their brain will have to be remade every hundered years or so and with that all memories are gone “it would be a new person, a shaddow of the former person then that lived on”
So the horde of Eldunarya is the VoS. Can’t wait for it to come out! Maybe Nasuada and Murtagh get together once he is freed because in either the 1st or 2nd book, she admires his bravery and he compliments her beauty. Cheers Bookie, great extract!
What are your thoughts on the Urgals; will they die out, are there others across the land?
I think the Urgals will go back where they came from; from across the sea.
What do you guys think about Angela’s past? I think there’s a possibility that she was a Rider, but her dragon died. In Book 3, Oromis says that, by her description, she had been in Ellesmere before, but under a name he swore not to tell anyone.
Omg! Thank you! Finally, somebody else thinks so. I’ve had that theory circling in my head for what seems like forever.
I know, I’m brilliant. It’s a gift, lol. But if my theory is correct, I would feel so bad for her. It’s bad enough that she lost her dragon, but she has to hide it too. I don’t think she was lying that Tenga was her mentor. He’s mad, probably from the loss of his dragon. I’m curious what role he will play in the upcoming book. CP didn’t put him there for nothing, and Angela did an obvious cover-up. She totally implied that he was always looking for the answers. She said that when she left his apprenticeship, he was trying to find if the phases of the moon affect the number of opals in the Beor Moutains. This is coming from the woman who was trying to prove that toads don’t exist, only frogs. Her personality seems too odd for someone to ask the same weird questions.
i think it is unlikely that angela is a rider, because she gets her magic from herbs/potions but the riders get magic from the dragons
OMG I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. Quote for quote CP said this;Kialandí—one of two of the Forsworn I named in Brisingr, along with Formora—was an elf. I named two more in my first draft, but talk of them was cut during the editing process.
And yes, some of the Forsworn were women. . . . In fact, one or both of the two I mentioned above were female, although I don’t want to say which at the moment. (Nor do I want to say whether Formora was an elf or human.) However, most of the thirteen traitors were men. END QUOTE.
I think Angela might be Formora!!! Obviously CP didn’t want to talk about it because it would spoil something…That is why CP wouldn’t say if it was elf or human!!! PLEASE COMMENT ON MY THEORY. YOU TOo BOOKIE
Oh my goodness!!!
I think this theory could go somewhere!
Jonny, I heard that too from somewhere and I think you’re right! It makes sense!
Cayla you have a good point, which backs up this theory!
But Nick has a good point too… AHH THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!!!
When will this book finaly be released?! It is driving me mad!
And that might be a reason why the wherecats hate her so much.
What about the elven children. They’re supposed to have very great power, I think one of them could be a Rider.
CP said that the rider will be someone who’s been in all three books, which the elven children have not.
It backs up the theory of Arya being the next Dragon Rider!
But isin’t it said in the books that the dragos just choose children/teens? In that case Aria would be too old.
Guys, it wouldn’t be Roran, if you want to know why, read one of my earlier posts. In the third book, Roran asked Eragon if you could make someone immortal. He said you couldn’t; you could make the body young, but the mind could only last 100 years, maybe a bit more unless you tried to make the brain younger, but you couldn’t keep your memories if you did that, and that would be bad for Katrina and Roran, so I really don’t think Roran is going to be a Rider. He might be the king though.
Kudos for that. Finally Roran can be eliminated as the possible new Rider… Great argument Hades Knight. :)
What if Katrina dies before Roran becomes a Rider, and Roran is so angry at Galbatorix he fights extremely hard, harder than anyone before?
Jacob: Katrina and Roran are going to have a baby together, approximately 6-7 months until the babe is born… So, there can be only two scenarios, neither of which seem plausible:
1. Katrina dies after the child is born. However, the battle can not wait for 7 months, plus the time taken to make Roran at least a satisfactory Rider. Also, it is kind of cruel to make the child motherless and leave him with a father who will watch him grow old and die while the father himself would remain young as ever.
2. Katrina dies before the baby is born. That will be extremely cruel. The Inheritance Cycle is not a kind of book nor does it have the type of readers who would like to read about an unborn child getting killed within his/her mother. CP knows it as do all writers who write the same genre.
So, it’s quite impossible that Roran Stronghammer will be the 4th Rider in Alagaesia and avenge Galby for the death of his family.
I hope my explanations are satisfactory. :)
Roran most likely won’t be a rider because, as seems to be the pattern lately, he is not related to a previous rider… Proof of this pattern: Eragon and Brom, Murtaugh and Morzan…
So possibly someone we all know from the first books is a descendant of a rider or… I’m seeing non-existent patterns. HA!
I’m not saying that Roran will be the rider, but in one of CP’s interviews, he said that it actually wasn’t very common to have a father and son rider. I do hope that Roran is the rider though, he probably won’t be.
Maybe, but I think elven children are too young; they may not even want to help the Varden. Oh, and I think either Roran will be the king if they win; its either him or Nusuada.
Yes, but it has been said that they have powers beyond adult elves, and that wouldn’t have been said for no reason.
Also I think the Urgals will die out, because they just love war too much.
There’s two characters we know next to nothing about. These two being the young woman Eragon stumbles upon while going to see Nasuada in the Varden camp in Brisingr. I believe one had a scarred wrist where chains used to chafe and the other had bulging arms. This can’t be nothing, Angela’s presence almost gaarantees it. But that Angela, being her normal self, has to be where interesting things are, to cast their future. And what if one of them has or will get “Greenie”?
Once again, CP said the next Rider will be someone that was in all three books up until now.
Sorry. Thanks, Cayla, I honestly don’t keep up with his interviews, but I probably should. It’s just those two characters have been bugging the hell out of me, lol. What significance do you think they could have?
Somehow, I think they have a connection to Eragon. They could be relatives, but as for their role in the books, I think their strong fighting skills will have some signifigance. But I don’t think we’ll hear a lot about them.
Or, they could be hiding from anyone in the camp. News travels like wild fire, and they could just not want to be remembered.
Do you remeber if they had dark skin like Nasuada? If they did, it’s possible that it was her mother and sister (or half sister).
I think the two mysterious figures are selena and eragons sister maybe, that would be a huge advantage for the varden, selena being the black hand and know the castles and murtagh also being eragons sibling has got a dragon so why not his sister? Its the easiest way for CP to throw a curveball, im just not sure if they were mentioned in all three books? I know selena was but the girl??
Stuart
Umm that’s an interesting theory but the book specifically said that Selena died. I’m pretty sure Garrow even burried her
I just think it will be nice Eragon figuring out his true name. And also using those mysterious seven words Brom told him before dying. No mention of these since the first book and Eragon had plenty of situations he could use them. And Roran will not be the next Rider for all the reasons posted above, but also because he has the gift of leadership and that would be a waste since as everyone says, “we do not need another Galbatorix”. And I hope there’s a chapter dedicated to Galbatorix. I want to see how crazy he really is. Anyway since the book starts with a battle, most probably in chapter 3 as the characters have blood on their clothes, it will surely have many battles. And besides this chapter, didn’t CP say he was writing a chapter Brains in a newsletter?
I completely agree with Eragonfan, I really think those words Brom told Eragon before he died will be important. Secondly, I think he will find his true name, it would probably take a day or two. Also it would be awesome to see just how crazy he is.
Can you tell me what those words are? Your not talking about the memory are you?
Hey Travis, I don’t think that those two women Eragon blessed in Brisingr will be in this final book. Angela said they have great destinies, but won’t take role in the empire falling. Also, I think they are trying to catch and kill someone for something because Saphira said something about it at the end of the blessing.
I strongly disagree. Why would CP even mention them if they weren’t to be mentioned later? That would make absolutely no sense at all. He spent like half a chapter talking about them. Obviously, they are going to be mentioned again.
the chapter is called intersecting sagas these charaters will be in cp next series
I’m really interested in finding out more about Galby’s first dragon because that is the source of his madness and I think that the key to his downfall will be somewhere in the knowledge of his past before his dragon died.
Maybe… possibly…. if Eragon found Galby’s first dragon’s Eldunari… but most likely not. And we can’t forget that Eragon can never use Galby’s true name due to spells cast on it, nor Galby’s first dragon’s true name (maybe as a weakness for Galby) because the dragon’s erased it along with the forsworn’s true names…. But does that mean that they don’t have Elunarya because they were reduced to nothingness when they lost all ther names?
Oops… my mistake…. Galby’s first dragon still has his true name because it wasn’t his fault he died… Sorry!
Did anyone see Arya in this chapter? It seems unusual that she would miss out on a meeting as important as this. It seems unlikely that she is dead because otherwise Eragon’s thoughts would be on her. It also mentioned that there were some elves in the crowd, however this chapter didn’t mention Arya once.
There are many chapters in all the books, where Arya’s been an important part yet hasn’t been mentioned until a later time….
I was reading the above comments and agree that the true name the Ra’zac mentioned is probably the true name of magic. This could lead to an interesting twist, such as Gallbatorix controlling the elves. Proof from the fact that Brom says in book 1 that if you know the true name of magic, you control it and all those who use it.
Also in Book 1, Eragon has a vision/dream thingy where he sees a man being left on the shore by a boat with two dragons circling overhead. My guess is that the dragons are Saphira and Greenie, and Eragon’s fortune that he would leave Alagaesia forever is coming true.
Eragon’s true name is probably something to do with Brisingr, since when he says it in Book 1, it makes him feel vibrant and alive, possibly to do with why it’s the first spell he used, etc.
I have a feeling that Roran is going to die, but that Murtagh will manage to change his name and break free in the final battle to help Eragon. Potentially, he and Galbatorix fight to the death, both dying, so helping free Murtagh of his and his father’s past “sins.”
Really looking forward to the book now, and please comment on my theories.
I am sure Murtagh will die along in Book 4. Remember Eragon said that he has to avenge Hrothgar’s death? After all Murtagh did single out Hrothgar in the Battle of Burning Plains and killed him on his own will. He did kill Oromis and Gaedr too, though we can discount that since he was under Galbatorix’s control during that. He was the reason of the deaths of three father figures in Eragon’s life. However much we all would love to see Murtagh live and he may even change and help the Varden but he is going to die, call it karma or the last bout of his ill fortune.
Loved it! Thank you so much for posting it! When Eragon said, “You could offer them barrels of ice cream.” Lmao! I would buy it!
Not ice cream, just cream.
Hehe… ice cream could have been a good option too. :D
I think the Urgals, especially Garzhvog will do an important task in Book Four such as, er… knowing where the rock of Kuthian is. Oh, and does anyone know what Marna is? It’s in the map of Alagaesia. Eragon might travel to Doru Araeba or the two mountains in the middle of the Hadarac Desert. CP would probably use all of the places shown in the map.
Maybe Eragon will find Naegling and actually move the two mountains in the middle of the Hadarac Desert! And find er… something that I have not thought of, yet.
I think when Oromis said that he had enough power stored in the gem in Naegling’s pommel, that he can “move mountains”, he was merely using a figure of speech for showing the extent. I don’t think he meant it literally.
Jiddung you know something that the rest of us dont! TELL US!!!!
Or when he said he could move mountains he was hinting something about Eragon moving the mountains in the middle of the Hadarac Desert to find the VoS. or RoK just a theory.
Another theory
Eragon finds the sword that can move mountains and like someone else said the spine maybe is a dragon and he uses the sword to wake the dragon up and they dragon helps Eragon to kill Galby
sorry for my last theory i forgot someone already said that
Hi all. A change of subject, but does anyone else think that the woman and daughter Eragon blessed in Brisingr could be his mother and sister/half sister. She could of faked her death or escaped from Galby. Always thought the way she refused to give her name and the way she had been tortured, plus her daughter’s strong forearms possibly from sword training. Could she be the last Rider?
I doubt it. CP has spent enough time establishing that Brom was Eragon’s father, and that his mother is dead. That was the main subplot of the third book. It would start to get old if he dragged it out for too long.
And also Eragon has a fairth of his mother that Oromis gave him in Brisingr. He would have realised that the elder of the woman who visited Angela was his mother, right?
I hadn’t thought about those two women. Now, I don’t think that CP would have introduced them to never speak of them again (that wouldn’t make much sense). Could those two be breaking into the castle and stealing the green dragon’s egg? I think that would be an interesting idea. Personally, I think those two are somehow related (maybe not by blood) to Eragon, I got the impression when they interacted that something was amiss. I am not sure what to think of them, I will have to go look that over!
Also, Angela has already read Selena’s future. What’s the point of doing it again?
MandyM11: About the two women – I don’t think they are related. The reason they acted weird when Eragon touched them was probably because they were used to people attacking them, and so were afraid of Eragon. Also remember when Saphira entered their mind and said not to kill the person too fast. I think they are just hunting someone who got them into slavery or something like that.
See, I would respectfully disagree. There is some importance for them in the storyline, otherwise CP would not have made a huge scene of it. Now when I say related, I do not mean relatives. I mean they are related to the storyline and are a part of something that is going on that the readers are unaware of.
Plus, CP has already said that the last rider, and there will be a last rider, has been in all of the previous books, leaving only a few possiblities…
Hey, something just sort of popped in my head: that the two dragons and their male and female Riders who leave Alagaesia (safely assuming that one pair is Eragon and Saphira) could have Shruikan as the second dragon among them. Think about this: Saphira at some point, I don’t remember when, called Thorn a child, and Greenie is going to be even younger. Plus, we have established in earlier posts that the hatching of Greenie is going to be of little help in the soon oncoming battle.
What if Greenie didn’t hatch? What if Shruikan is freed from Galby at his death and since then he becomes a free dragon he decides to accompany Eragon to the lands beyond Alagaesia, thus leaving behind the cursed place. As an experienced, older and free dragon, who doesn’t need Saphira to teach him dragon ways, I think he is definitely a better candidate. :) That’s like saying “tall, dark, handsome and older” in human terms. :D
Then, the woman who leaves with Eragon (i.e. Arya, again assuming) does not need to be a Rider as we all concluded. It will be different than the usual cliche that she will become a Rider. She already became ‘Shadeslayer’ along with Eragon, essentially sharing the same surname between them, a surname none other living person shares. What say you guys?
Ah, I never thought of that. I can totally see it happening, but I really want to see Arya become a Rider. I also have a feeling, though, that Shruikan will end up dying in the battle between Eragon and Galby, and if he doesn’t, he will want to be killed because of all stuff Galby forced him to do.
Hm… I sincerely conclude that all we can do is keep up with a long line of speculations while we are twiddling our thumbs, waiting for Book 4. It’s making me extremely anxious.
Haha, I agree with that 100%.
It’s also possible that Eragon finds a way to free Shruikan but he still ends up dying because of Galby’s anger or he tries to kill Galby himself and ends up getting slain. Oh, and I read in an earlier post someone saying that Shruikan will give Eragon his Elundari, but if you think about it, Galby’s had Shruikan for so long as a slave, wouldn’t he have already made Shruikan give it up?
I think that Arya becoming a “shadeslayer” could be foreshadowing her becoming a rider. Think about it – Eragon was the only living “shadeslayer” and he’s also the only free dragon rider.
If Saphira thinks that Thorn is a child and she’s only his senior by less than a year, how do you think Shruikan would feel about Saphira? He’s her senior by far more than she is Thorns…
I’ve been so anxious for this book and have had a hard time finding websites with interesting blogs like this. Thank you for this Bookie.
As for my thoughts, I’d hoped that Orik would be the new Rider, but I agree that in all likeliness it will be Arya. But, I think there will be some twists to her bonding. This blog, which I’m reading at work by the way, has inspired me to go home and re-read all three books. It seems there is plenty I’ve missed. I’m not much of theorist, as I’ve thought of a lot of what you all have said, and even more that I didn’t, that I will now have to think about. Thanks again, everyone, for being as geeky as me. Lol.
Bookety-book, book 4! =D
…Any more news?
I’m re-reading the books, as stated earlier, and came across the dream that Eragon had. Follow me if you will. It’s foreshadowing all the death that will follow him. The man and woman walking arm and arm, it isn’t Eragon and Arya. It’s either Nasuada and Murtagh or Roran and Katrina. And the two dragons are Shiruken and Glaedr or two others that are significant but none the less dead.
Here’s why: the dream sequence stated, “many had silver hair” so lots of elves die. “Two of them, taller than the rest, walked arm in arm” so it’s not Arya. Elves are not tall, and she would not be taller than the rest of the people. Any thoughts on my little worked induced daydream?
I think you’re right in regards to the people, but I think it will be Eragon and Katrina as she will become the next Rider, leaving Roran crying on the beach as at the end of the book; the elves and Dragon Riders and other immortals leave Alagaesia to men. I.e. Out of Lord of the Rings.
Ummm… b_deployed, you are mistaken about elves not being tall, it has been mentioned in Eragon that Arya is very tall; it’s there when Eragon first comes to Farthen Dur and both he and Arya spar for the first time in the practice arena. As for the rest, can you please tell me where is the dream sequence? Don’t tell me the page number because I am going to refer to an e-book, just an incident before or after.
NitumJ: It is while Eragon is unconcious, after the farm has burned down and he is sleeping at Horst’s house.
I think that the possibility of Eragon dying is very small. Authors and publishers alike understand that readers have invested a lot of their time into the protagonist, and to see them die would not do justice.
It is also worth noting that the majority of the books are told from a third person narrative, but with Eragon in the picture, with Eragon’s thoughts; almost with Eragon’s point of view, but not in first person. With Eragon dead, the final chapters would have to be told from Nusuada’s or Roran’s point of view, not something that would leave the fans pleased.
Thank you Bookie.
I sort of agree that the two people wouldn’t be Eragon and Arya, It has been mentioned sometimes that Eragon is of medium height. Though he maybe still growing since he is only seventeen or so. Arya is already tall but since both of them should be taller than the rest of the silver-haired people then it has to be some other pair. Has it ever been mentioned about how tall Murtagh and Nasuada are?
What happend in the Blood Oath Ceremony made Eragon like an elf in stature, therefore taller, if I’m not mistaken.
If you look at it that way, the one not on the boat will be Eragon, shouting for all the ones that died.
yeah, maby the people on the boat are dead and traviling to the Void, kind of like an Underworld thing, and they are leaving Eragon, which is why he is yelling?
You guys,
Don’t you think we’re seeing just a liiitle more to that scene than what is there? Remember, CP hadn’t planned the entire series when he wrote that ONE SCENE! I think it’s more of a tribute to Lord of The Rings (lots of those in the books if u read carefully) than an actual foreshadowing.
No offense, just don’t go mad over this one scene.It COULD be nothing.
I have not read these books in a while, so correct me if I’m wrong.
The two women that are mentioned came up in the chapter Intersecting Saga’s, and I am sure that I have read somewhere that CP is starting something new, so chances are that they are unrelated to this story.
Also, while it may be true that Galby is looking for the true name of magic, I am certain that it states that there was magic before the ancient language and that the Grey Folk changed this. Tenga, the man Eragon meets on his journey back to the Varden in Brisingr, used magic without using the Ancient Language. What if Eragon could learn to bypass the Ancient Language and use it as it was before? Maybe Galby will gain control over the entire language, but be unable to control Eragon because of this.
Finally, I remember reading somewhere that Galby lost half his army in the Spine. What was he looking for there? The green dragon, another rider, the original Eragon or his dragon?
And thank you for posting this online Bookie, its good to see that this book will be here sooner rather than later, its been a long wait.
I thought the same thing about the ancient dragon and Rider was hiding in the Spine. That would explain the disappearance of half an army and also why so many people fear the Spine. This also makes me think that there may be a horde of wild dragons there, untamed and savage enough to strike fear that would span generations.
We’re back to that old question: Does the half-army disappearance refer to half of Galby’s whole army or just half of an army he sent into the Spine? Because if it’s only half of an army that went into the Spine, why can’t the other half tell what happened?
You know, there’s always the possiblity that the Spine is just dangerous, and Eragon, being Brom’s son, had a heightened sense of direction…
I’m actually surprised that the werecats will allow a magician to read their minds and that they accepted when Nasuada said their demands were not possible.
I wonder if the Gray Folk are living in the Spine? I mean, surely they would be capable of destroying an army… And that would explain a lot of the Spine’s “weirdness”. No one knows what happened to them, so why can’t they just live in secret like the elves and dwarves are doing?
yes, ive been waiting for someone to mention the Gray Folk. i doubt that the only part in the series they will play is in a short description of the Taming of Magic by Oromis. that is very plausible.
My theories:
I believe that the green egg will indeed hatch for Arya. Perhaps they decide to leave Alagaesia because the Menoa Tree demands Eragon’s first “seed”, or child. They leave Alagaesia together to prevent this from happening. He does have that tingling feeling in his lower abdomen. Makes me think it has something to do with reproduction. Maybe she made him infertile. But the tree will definitely be demanding something in the fourth book.
I think Eragon could possibly learn the true name of Eldunarya, thereby freeing all Eldunarya from the grasp of Galbatorix, and removing the vast amount of his power. Galbatorix would remain a powerful enemy so the fight would still be good.
I thought the same thing when it said that he felt pain in his lower abdomen. It makes sense to for her to want to take away his ability to have kids seeing as how she was betrayed by someone she loved and never had kids herself.
You guys too?I’m not as originally evil as I thought… =D
Well, I think in the Vault of Souls and/or rock of Kuthian, they might find the Eldunarya of the first Rider’s dragon. The first Rider’s name was Eragon, so what if the name of the first dragon and Rider opens up the Vault? This is just a theory I’ve been thinking about for some time now.
There is serious doubt that Eragon, the hope of all Alagaesia, would control dragons without consent. Therefore, I think that if ever Eragon got the chance, he would destroy the Elundarya unless the dragon inside said he/she wanted to help the fight…
Even if he did find Elf-Eragon’s dragon’s eldunari, do you really think that ONE eldunari would match Galby’s HUNDREDS of eldunari?
The Star Wars theory is supported by many people including myself. But does anyone think that that the werecat King’s name (Grimrr Halfpaw) sounds a bit similar to Grimmjow Jaggerjaw? (I may have gotten that wrong.) Both of which have something to do with cats (although Grimmjow use to be a jaguar-like adjuchas class meanos so maybe that’s why I assocate him with cats that turn human). Is anyone else seeing this?
Thanks Bookie so much for posting this online. A friend of a friend of mine has already prebooked a sighned copy of the new book.
Thank you so much Bleach Fan!!! I googled Bleach and started reading/watching it and got hooked!!! tx tx tx tx tx tx tx tx tx tx tx. Dose any1 have a rough idea of when empire is gonna be reaselsed?
i dont think there is a name for book 4 yet
omg you know what i just thought of, what if orik is the new dragon rider!!! just think about it, i know that it says in the first book, that the spell to creat the dragon rider went only to the elves, but then later they put in the humans
well, yeah, so how would a Dwarf become rider? and it wouldnt be too fair to anyother character, Orik already got an important position as the Dwarf King. And a spell like that (including all the Dwarfs in the running to become a Dragon Rider) cant happen in just one day.
sssssssoooooo awesomeeeeee! plus, in one of the paragraphs, nasuda does not have a ” at the end. but becides that, i cant whait for the 4th book!!!!!!! when will it come out????????!!!!!!!
I have a few theories: 1 – The egg is definetely hatch for Arya, and the connection between dragon riders and dragons will never be as strong as theirs, as per the growth of the green dragon, it will not make a difference because Arya is also older than Eragon, it may have dialogues about this, also i do not think they will mate in the book; 2 – Galby is looking for the name of the ancient language or magic itself; but what will that matter if Eragon figure out Galbys new true name, I believe he will discover that at the edge of being killed and it will save him and grant him total control over Galby, but Murtagh will give the final blow to Galby and die himself; 3 – The elves, dwarves, werecats and riders will leave or hide in the end for the begining of a new era; 4 – Sorry for the mistakes, Thanks for posting the chapter.
um, I think you did not know, but in Brisingr, pg 208, it says Three different elves-one a Rider, and two ordinary spellcasters-discovered it on their own and many years apart.
Don’t forget that Oromis and Glaedr also tell Eragon that the three that found Galby’s true name died because Galby cast a spell protecting it so obviously that can not be how Eragon wins…. unless he can find a way around the spell which is unlikely…
In case you guys don’t remember, Brom gave Eragon one last piece of advice. To always use logic. Find a weakness. I kinda hope that Eragon uses that advice to defeat Galby. For the rock of kuthian, i have no clue. It might be Brom’s tomb, for the true names might be the same. With greeni, i REALLY hope that Roran is his rider. Also, Eragon might just defeat Galby by pure swordsmanship, but that would really dissapoint people. The werecats obviously play a big part, but all I can do is wait for the book to come out. CAN’T WAIT!!!
Don’t forget that just before Brom died he gave Eragon 9 words in the ancient language
it wouldnt be possible for Brom’s tomb to be the Rock of Kuthian, because Oromis and Arya said the name sounded like a whisper in the back of their heads, a long forgotten memory. so how would this newly formed tomb be something that is probably ancient.
Cody, I think that that is a bad theory, because the dragon already chose his rider, and the dwarves weren’t in the spell thing.
The dragons don’t choose riders until someone they think is worthy touches their egg. So no, greeny hasn’t chosen a rider yet, and no, it won’t be a dwarf because the dwarves aren’t part of the rider spell. Honestly, I can think of only three people who were in all three of the previous books to become the new rider, as Paolini has already said it will be; Roran, Angela, or Arya… Come to think of it, there’s a possiblility it could be Katrina or Jormundur, but unlikely…
Okay, I thought that the dragon chose the rider before they touched the egg… Also, it’s obvious that CP wouldn’t do that. And, Orik is already king, and I can’t think of another significant dwarf.
Then why does it say that in the first book Arya had all the children – dwarf, human and elf – touch the egg?
This is just a random question bu ti was thinking about how they know which person is meant to be the rider if all the kids do is touch the egg once it took saphira several days to hatch for eragon so what if the right person touched but then the egg was passed on and it hatched later after other people had touched it?
Kayla, in 1 of CP’s interviews, he said that a magician or rider was there when people touched the egg. Thus, the magician/rider would sense the dragons thoughts and know when it had chosen.
Cody, she let the dwarves touch the egg because the dwarves were very reluctant to even let Arya bring the egg to them. She knew it wouldn’t hatch for them.
and the dwarves dont like dragons eather so greeni would just die probly and jonney eragon couldont sence saphria as he thought it was just a stone some why would the others be diffrent?
What i’m saying is, there is a rider/magician waiting for a change in the egg’s concious. If it changes when someone touches it, the magician alerts everyone. And, Eragon wasn’t trying to sense Saphira’s concious(he didn’t even know how!).
Actually, i think that the VoS has SOULS in it. But of course, that’s not obvious. Eragon could find Galby’s soul the use it as a last resort. Or Shruikan’s heart of hearts.:)
OK. STOP TALKING ABOUT ERAGON GETTING A BUNCH OF ELDUNARI. Eragon would NEVER control a dragon. Unless it was given to him by the dragon’s will, like Glaedr’s. SO STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT THEORY.
What if Angela was an elf who changed her appearance so she looks human? A little far fetched, but an idea.
no elf would do that as thay dont think veary highly of normal humans
well, Angela is very different from anyone we have seen yet, so maby she did. But i doubt it. Woah, what if she is the offspring of a Human Rider who married an Elf? That would explain why she looks human, but is older than she looks. She also said once that she had been to Ellesmara once, long ago. Maby that means when she was born?
I dont think Angela is an elf, because what would that help. And remember when she was healing Roran’s wounds? Trianna said that she struggled to cast simple spells. But i agree somewhat, Angela is definetly not human. But i wonder if Glaedr tells you what she went by in Ellesmera! That would put a lot of pieces together.
she could be a race of beings that so old nobody knows of them
Has anyone thought of the fact the Angela might be the last of the grey folk?
Maybe it’s plausible as we don’t know much about them
It may be possible, but if she was, than she’s really old and that’s why she can’t use very powerful spells.
I agree.
Err….sorry for my stupidness, but what is the grey folk?
race of creaures that created the ancient language.
but not every elf can use magic, i think it says that in Eldest when they go to Ellesmera. and she being Gray Folk is kind of plausible.
I love these books so much!
Just a thoery about the next rider. I definately think it will be arya, inow it sounds predictable but i don’t htink it can be anybody else. think about it it says somewhere in the books that about half the riders were usually female and so far there have only been males, also it says the eggs usually hatched for elves becuase they were the first to bond with the dragons and so far 3 of the 4 riders have been human, and lastly CP says that the next rider will be someone that has been in all three books. With the criteria that the next rider will most likely be a female elf that has been in all 3 books it can’t be anyone else but arya.
I agree, but CP tends to go to something completely unexpected. All the facts are supporting Arya, but I have a gut feeling that it won’t be her.
I agree with you and think it will be Arya as well. Part of my reasoning is the color, the new dragon is supposed to be green and she has been mentioned in all three books and is constantly associated with green (forest, smells of pine needles, dresses in green). There is also a green sword in Ellesmera that belongs to one of the elven families (her relative?) Also, I could be wrong, but where does it say that the egg Galby has is green? It does say in Eldest in the chapter “Broken Egg and Scattered Nest” that Eragon steps on a sharp object that turns out to be a fragment of a green dragon egg. The dragons’ nests are in the elves forest. Couldn’t a wild dragon egg have hatched and chosen Arya as it’s rider? Some eggs wait over a hundred years before hatching for their rider.
i agree with the arya theory completle because cp wouldont make all the new riders human that would be boring and it couldont be a member of eragons family cos that would be A:stupid and B:most of them are dead also C:brom was a rider also it couldont be a dwarf becouse thay dont like magic
I think that Jonny is right. It seems that since Arya is the most obvious choice, it won’t be her. I think that CP is going to do something surprising.
I believe that CP said that the elves put a spell on the dragon eggs to keep them from hatching to anyone else but those who they think are worthy correct me if I’m wrong.
Something about Angela has been bothering me. Remember how Oromis said he swore in the Ancient Language that he would not tell what she went by in Ellesmera? Obviously, CP wouldn’t say that for anything. Anyone got any thoughts of what she went by then?
something has just struck me too about Angela what is shes a werecat that got forsed to turn into a human or something thats why she had a different name in ellesmera like maud
No, it’s not maud, because Eragon saw Maud, the went back to the Varden and saw Angela. I don’t care who you are, you can’t travel that fast.
i didont say it was maud i said LIKE maud as she had diffrent names
Oh, I thought you meant she went by Maud.
It’s okay.
she won’t have been a werecat, because even in their human form they don’t look exactly like humans.
I think that Galbatorix will use most of his Eldunarya and gain so much power that all will seem lost.
Then Eragon will go to the Rock of Kuthian, and he will find a clue for what the name of the ancient language is, then he will become a complete master of magic and with the help of (at least) one other dragon rider, he will kill Galbatorix.
Most people want an epic battle at the end, and having Eragon find the name of the ancient language, well, that would be boring.
good theory y. but what would happen to shruikun?
It might be boring, but it will be boring if Arya becomes the next rider too.
And if Eragon get many Eldunarya.
Excactly! I don’t want Arya be the next rider, or Eragon get eldunari! That would be boring, and Paolini has to entertain the fans.
jonny you know you said about an epic battle well what if shurkan maneges to brake free of the dark magic binding him with the help of erogon and saphra and kills galbatorix in a battle enabling erogon to steal the last egg
As for the new rider, if the egg will somehow get to the Varden I would rather want it to be someone unexpected (or at least not as much as Arya is) like the girl Eragon and Saphira “blessed” (Elva) or Nasuada, if it have to be a girl. I used those two because I for some reason have difficulties imagining Katrina or Elain as a rider. =D
I also think that we will hear some more from Sloan in the 4th book.
As for Shruikan, I haven’t thought about what will happen to him, maybe he will just stay on Galbatorix’ side because of the spell, or he might try to kill him but get killed by him in his attempt, although I doubt that will happen.
seriously? SERIOUSLY!? paolini.. get a handle on your s#!t and either A, give us a better chapter to read with more interesting situations than this filler crap, or B, release the damn book. quit cash milking this enterprise and release it. I was ok until today reading this with waiting as long as i have, which i have been doing since eragon was released in hard cover, this is preposterous.
i agree
I really like it! It has been so long since I last read part of the inhertance series! This has satisfied me
ok so eeuhm the wild dragons cast that spell to banish the names of the 13 of galby right? so nowone could remember the names and stuff, every elf eragon asks about kuthian says: well it strikes a familiar chord in my memory but i can’t put it right and stuff so it would prob be one of those 13 dragons’egg or eldunarí of galby right?
Not a bad idea Morzaan but find some more info.
oh sorry i have just read that somewone already submited this theory so i apologyze
I think Arya will be the next rider as now Oromis and Glaedr are dead it would make sence as she has all the nolage all ready and can perform magic so she wouldont have to be taught anything
also you know arya is 101 years old and brom started the varden do you think thay ever met cos brom is probly at least 100 due to the fact he knew the riders of old
own yeah it says brom acompaned arya in brinsing sorry
Remember brom said ou could bring back a person from the dead but it will kill you?maybe galbatorix can as hes so powerfl.
but who would he bring back?
Galbatorix didn’t like anyone that much
did anybody else notice that at the top it says the FOURTH chapter and yet it does not like many of the chapters refere to earlyer events in the book
I was wondering the same thing… And I don’t see why he couldn’t have given us the first chapter instead… My only guess is that it reveals too much as to what’s going to happen in the book or something like that…
I think perhaps Paolini was trying to also make some sort of impression? Fourth chapter of the fourth book? Perhaps the first one was too much of a cliffhanger or left too much for speculation on the whole book. Notice how cleverly he did it: we’re speculating about what happened in the beginning of the book before this chapter, whereas if we had read the first one, we would be more speculative of the rest of the book and what happens in the fifth chapter, for example.
Hmmm… That makes sense… If only he could give us the entire book now! lol : )
I agree with you on that fact there’s something going on that the readers are unaware of, but why did CP show us his fourth chapter and not the first one, like most authors. My thought is that is something dramatic has happened to start with.
Also, as all the important people in the Varden are there, why isn’t Arya mentioned?
oooohhhh ejc thats a good piont maybe she is with elves!!! I dont know why but maybe.
maybe she has been killed?
Oh, please, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Arya dies, it will not happen in the first three chapters of book four.
oH,YES, PLEASEEEEE KILL THAT ANNOYING ELF!
Seriously, I didn’t hate her so much until I had to bear 10434353478 diiferent variations of the ARYA=RIDER+Eragon :P
I know what Eragon’s true name is. If you want to know what it is then ask me and I shall tell you.
What is it then know-it-all!
Pleas tell us?
CP said after releasing Eragon that he pictured three warrior brothers and three dragons fighting against Galbatorix in the end.
Hey! Three warrior bothers could mean Eragon, Murtaugh, and RORAN! That means he could be the next rider YAY!
Maybe I missed it, but where in the books does it say that the last egg that Galby has is green? In Eldest in the chapter “Broken Eggs and Scattered Nests” when Eragon went after a rebuffed Saphira he steps on a sharp object that turns out to be a broken piece of green dragon egg. What if a wild dragon egg finally hatched (they can wait a hundred years for their rider). Oromis and Glaedr were able to hide out there for many years, couldn’t a wild dragon egg have survived as well? Wouldn’t that be a twist that we have come to expect from CP? Arya would be the obvious choice for its rider, green dragon – her green magic, ties to the forest, green eyes and clothing. There is also a green sword (Tamelein) in Ellesmera that belongs to Lord Fiolr.
For a dragon to do any good against Galby at this point, it would have to have already hatched. A newly hatched dragon would be too small, weak and wouldn’t breathe fire yet. Even Thorn who has had some magical help from Galby, has had some issues with control and fire.
In Brisingr, on page 630, Glaedr says:
I wonder if there are still some in the Du Fells Nangoroth or maybe there are some on Vroegard at Doru Araeba.
Paragraph six, word eleven: coffers.
Pretty sure that isn’t right.
Those words are the same words found in the official excerpt. I understand that not all of you have the excerpt at hand and that you are making guesses to what seems strange, and I thank you for that. I will put up a screenshot of the whole chapter this evening so that you and others may compare with the official version when looking for mistakes.
A coffer is a box or chest where you store valuables so where Jormundur says that their coffers are nearly empty he means that the Varden are running out of money and cannot afford to pay the werecats for their loyalty and services.
You may view the complete and official chapter here. It is not meant for reading the chapter, but for checking up on any words or sentences you might consider weird or misspelled. Hope this helps!
I love this series but it is taking him way too long to release the books. He had the book already written years ago. I think he is just holding off for the drama.
I really enjoyed this piece. Thanks for Posting it, Bookie. Also, I think that since Arya is the obvious choice, she won’t become the rider of Greenie. CP has pulled too many surprises on us for me to easily believe that. I think that we will see more of the Grey Folk in this book.
Hey guys, has nobody thought back to the original thief of Saphira’s egg? what if he’d got Saphira’s egg tucked away, then when he picked up Greenie, Greenie hatched for him/her and his only thought was to run, and when he knew Morzan was chasing he hid the egg and ran with his dragon and has hidden, waiting for the right time (possibly hiding with the werecats.) Because 1, Brom never found him 2, nobody knew his reasons for not taking all 3 eggs. The only flaws I see in this idea, are, a dragon hiding? Unlikely, they’re too proud, too hungry to avenge their race. And Mutagh saying that Saphira is the only female because I’m sure he mentioned “the last egg” but he and Galby could be assuming the varden have it?
Great idea!! Galb definitely has the last egg though :( Maybe there were 4? But i think i remember brom saying galb had 3- but maybe brom got that information from the thief who was covering up for himself? 4 young dragons would be really exciting :) But the new rider is someone who has been in all 3 books- so my idea is that the thief and new rider is angela!
But where has she been hiding her dragon then :( Maybe not angela.
I really want to just know when the fourth book will come out, just an estimated date would be fine. I have been waiting for this for a long time.
I really want a estimated date too. Just a date to look forward to. Also I really really want this book to come out
I believe that the person leaving with him from Alagaesia is a girl which Eragon previously knew, but only vaguely. I also agree that it will probably be that Eragon will have to speak his true name. Another possibility, far-fetched as it is, is that maybe Angela was wrong in the predictions. I doubt that, however.
I believe that Arya is with the elves mourning over Glaedrs and Oromis’ death.
Do you think Eragon leaves with Saphira, Greenie, and rider on the boat across the ocean because they believed that dragons and their riders should not control Alagaésia anymore because they might end up like Galbatorix? (Shuriken and Thorn die!)
Or…
Eragon dies and rides a boat with Oromis fully passing into the afterlife!
oooh or Arya and Eragon (Arya has greenie) ride on a boat with the elves heading towards the elves mainland..!
Just got a newsletter in my email from Christopher Paolini. He announced that he’s killing someone off! I wonder who it could be…
it could be Nasuada, leaving Eragon to take control of the Varden
I have read this book and this chapter is not in it. I did my research and this is a fake, but I still like it.
Ok, my bad. I was thinking about the 3rd book not the 4th, so sorry for com